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1. This was excellent and packed full of valuable information. Thank you for doing this! I’ve been using a naturopath for years and am 57 with perfect health. It was worth every dime. Just sayin…..

   1. Suzanne,
      Excellent! Thanks for the comment!
      Jen

2. Thank you for this most informative presentation. It offers much to those of us who are skittish about participating in the “medical system”

   Jennifer–Yesterday I promptly ordered Big Brother in the Exam Room and hope you are able to interview the author of Terrain Therapy.

   I will stay tuned. Solari is the best!

   1. Christine, Dr Sam is on my list for sure! Enjoy the Exam Room book, lots of great information. Have a great weekend, Jen

3. Corey I checked on opting out of medicare. You can’t unless you want to opt of out social security all together. That would mean that you would no longer receive social security.

   1. Anne,
      100%. But, Doctors can ‘opt out’ of Medicare and you as a patient can then choose go to them. You would choose to use the doctors, clinics or dentists in “The Wedge” and pay cash, credit or barter (it’s between you and the doctor). https://jointhewedge.com
      It is a paradigm shift for sure. My sister is on Disability and Medicare, we found a great doctor who accepts her Medicare insurance when needed but mostly we pay cash for the appointment. This doctor is not in The Wedge, he is a doctor who accepts Medicare but is not part of a HMO plan like “medicare Advantage”. He has a little more freedom to choose how to treat her but her information is still being fed into the HIE Health Information Exchange system under the CMS.
      So we are careful with what we say to the doctor when in that exam room.
      Thank you for the comment!
      Jen

      1. Thank you Jennifer for this info. However, I have opted out of the system all together and now live on an island in Caribbean where I pay for all medical services out of pocket and there is no reporting system. That is why I wanted to know if I could opt out of Medicare. It is useless to me. I still pay for major medical insurance that covers what Medicare doesn’t but since it looks like, even if I do have to go to a hospital, with the US hospital system engaged in eliminating pensioners and the untaxed, it will not be in the US,

         1. Anne, Do you need a roommate? ; )
            Thank you for your comments! Your information is very helpful to me.
            -Jen

4. Wow! Thank you!

   The Surgery Center of Oklahoma in Oklahoma City might be a resource for folks. They’re private physicians who don’t take insurance. Mises and Lew Rockwell have printed articles by their founder, Keith Smith, MD, that I found helpful to understanding his values along with information about financial incentives that drive hospitals. The attempts to eliminate his business through lawmaking were really interesting. Unbeknownst to them at the time, a legislator was looking out for them. He also explains pricing and how they’re able to make a profit yet deliver service for far less than the typical insurance covered surgery.

   1. Pam, Yes! You are correct! We are on the same wavelength. Corey and I included them in the show notes above under Surgery Center’s with Cash Friendly Pricing: https://aapsonline.org/surgery-centers-with-cash-friendly-pricing/ There is a list of quite a few of them with Oklahoma Surgery Center being THE Pioneer in cash pricing for surgery. Have a great week! -Jen

   2. This is how Ron Paul did it when he was a practicing physician here in Texas. It’s nice to know doctors in a sister state like Oklahoma are doing the same.

5. Just finished watching the video. Jen Walters- one nurse to another, you’re the best. Matt too. Loved this. Thank you Corey.

   1. Nurse Carol,
      Thank you!
      Your comments below about CPT, ICD codes and Experian are horrifying.
      That is the reason I love what Nurse Twila Brase is doing with The Wedge at https://jointhewedge.com/ The doctors, dentists, surgery centers, pharmacies, clinics have left the Medicare system and are off of the health information exchanges (HIE). Where health data in patient medical records is not shared without vountary consent of the patient, parent or guardian.
      The other part I have found by going health plan free for so long and with a vaccine injured son, there are more doctors out there willing to give or barter their care than you would think. If we couldn’t afford the price of the visit, then I would ask for a payment plan or sliding scale or charity. Amazing how many came to our rescue when needed. And when we could afford to pay more we would offer to cover other’s visits when needed. It’s about healthCARE not state run money grabbers that murder people. I think we can change this paradigm for sure!
      Have a great week!
      Jen

      1. With he sort of coded claims data (diagnosis code and procedure code) being fed to Experian, it seems that it’d be possible, in theory, for them to assess vaccination (CPT code) versus adverse event (diagnosis code) zip code by zip code. Though the public (and a lot of doctors) isn’t really recognizing and reporting what is technically an adverse event after administration of an experimental drug, any entity with access to claims data could assess this, and more. Why is Experian so gung ho for getting it’s hands on claims data? Wish I had answers but just a lot of questions for now.

6. Thanks for taking the time to pull together these resources. I’ve worked in the system for decades and I have not been able to find a doctor accepting direct payment on my own. I’m going to look into these insurance alternatives as well. It seems to me that we pay insurance premiums and we pay for our own data to be given up through doctors and hospitals and insurance companies. Many entities making money off that data, as it passes through vendor after vendor after vendor. I watch a diabetic’s simple A1C blood test pass through 7 software systems (and that number is limited to what I can see; there are likely more that I don’t see)- all a unique vendor collating data and reporting, some of them .gov contractors, all grabbing their piece of the data, doing whatever they’re paid to do with it. I reported here a few weeks ago that I’m seeing the Experian (as “Experian Wellstar”) name on people’s blood work results. More recently I’m seeing the name on people’s medical records. I’m seeing whole health systems named “Wellstar”. This alarms me because Experian is known to me as a credit reporting agency and now they have access to health records, vaccination status, mental health diagnoses… It seems to me that Experian and whomever else controls data can easily assess vaccine adverse reaction rates- vaccination is reported with a CPT code. Diagnoses are reported with an ICD-10 code- such as the diagnosis codes for blood clots. It is nothing to pull a report correlating the CPT code for covid vaccine and the diagnosis codes for blood clots. Whomever is controlling claims data can do this, and it seems to me that Experian is positioning itself to be in control of claims data. Just some musings on my part, based on what I see in my corner of the world. I’m not sure what it means yet, except that when I have to see a doctor, I don’t want to sign any “HIPAA” forms, nor use any insurance if I can possibly avoid it

   1. For instance, what is this? Probably floating around on the internet by accident. https://www.experian.com/content/dam/marketing/na/healthcare/payer-lists/real-time-payer-list.pdf

      An “Experian Health” PAYER LIST: ELIGIBILITY, CLAIMS STATUS, NOTICE OF ADMISSION. Including 25 pages worth of health insurance company names, and something about claims status for hospital admissions and discharges. Again, I don’t know what it means. It does seem that Experian has some sort of involvement over payers and health systems though, and I wonder why.

7. Hello Miss Cory, I realized 27 yrs ago at age 40 the health care sys was failing. I was falling apart and sick as a dog, dr wanted to give statins and more, told me my bones and joints hurting were due to my age and would have to take meds the rest of my life, bone dr wanted to do neck surgery, nope never went back. Instead God sent a computer guy to start me on my journey learning food and health. Yes 27 yrs of study, way over 100 books, thousands of hrs of vids. Mostly self taught. Age 67 now bones and joints fine, BP 108 over 70 no meds, resolved my prediabetes with diet only, down 43 lbs, I eat 100 percent animal, no veggies or fruit. Any of us can be so very much more healthy. To quote Dr Sarah Hallberg DO, don’t follow the guide lines. Her 5 yr study on reversing type 2 diabetes is land mark, but ADA want teach low carb or very low carb. Easy to understand why. If we want to find how to be healthy we can. First step break our carb addiction.

   1. Jimmy, I am so proud of you! Yes, we can each find what works for our health if we are willing to put in the time for the research. Recently I have been running into multiple patients for post-op care with implantable devices for blood glucose monitoring. Diabetes care in certain hospital programs are telling extremely overweight people that their weight is not the cause of their type 2 diabetes, that they are “destined for diabetes with their genes”. Then they are talked into an implanted device that monitors blood sugar and some even an insulin pump. Then they must live each day using an app that tracks their bodily reactions and I think it can tell where you are or if you are asleep…UGH. I can’t imagine how implants and tracking will help anyone with type 2 diabetes, plus I am pretty sure the EMF isn’t helping them to feel better. You took your health into your own hands and are an inspiration to us all! God Bless, Jennifer

      1. Thank you Miss Jennifer. Drs in the low carb world have a saying “genes load the gun but what we eat cocks the hammer and pulls the trigger”. If I look at my grandad and my mom and dad. I was on the same road easy to see ie where I carried my weight, visceral area, not good. We men also have a big problem, we think if we are strong we are healthy, nope. High carb and high triglycerides are harming our liver, kidneys, heart blood flow etc etc etc. Nope don’t feel a thing until boom. I have a good bit of calcium in the artries, not one indication it is there. Wish I had a way to post my before and after pics here. So now I am working on reversing the calcium in the wrong place.

      2. I wonder about these AI controlled blood sugar management devices too. I don’t know a whole lot about these myself, except to say that I’ve seen diagnosis codes for the failure of these devices in overdosing or underdosing people on insulin. There’s a code for this? I do not understand why anyone would hand over bodily control to a medical device like this. A device that is so prone to fail that there is a code for that failure (I honestly don’t recall whether I saw the failure code as a diagnosis or a procedure code). They tell people that being overweight is genetic too, right before they sell the public on gastric bypass surgeries. I’d warn anyone I care about away from that surgery, personally.

         1. I know numerous people who’ve had the gastric bypass surgery. They may “work” for a year or two, but unless you’re also prepared to make numerous lifestyle changes, the surgery alone is unlikely to help in the medium to long term.

            The folks I know have mostly gained back their weight post-surgery, and then some.

            Also, much of the weight loss is a result of the prescribed liquid only diet, two weeks prior to, and six weeks after surgery.

            1. My aunt had gastric bypass surgery, she never left the hospital. She was one the best, most positive and happy people I have ever known. She had some type of sepsis and it killed her. It was awful.

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