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“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” ~ Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

By Catherine Austin Fitts

I used to live in a first-world country. If I picked up the phone and made a call, it went through. If someone said they would come by to pick up a package by noon, I could count on it. If a stranger came to my house, they had a social or civil purpose—something other than picking up extra cash by turning me in for a regulatory violation or reporting on my personal habits to someone who slipped them money on the digital smartphone. If I bought a package of meat or fish in the supermarket, I did not worry about whether it was real and whether or not it was safe to eat. If I went outside to ride my bike or go for a jog, I did not have to give up and come back indoors because the spraying of heavy metals was so heavy that I couldn’t exercise without coughing. Nor was I required to pretend such things were not happening to maintain my social standing.

For reasons that we cover regularly on The Solari Report, most of us are swimming in a sea of environmental, legal, regulatory, and cultural pollution. These problems, along with the explosion of new technology and technocracy around us, make it easy to become frustrated and let our standards go-acculturating to a debasement of standards.

Seeking integrity demands that we maintain a high learning metabolism; this can be time-consuming and also requires greater reliance on others to help us understand and deal with fast-unfolding developments. However, integrity is also its own reward. If we do our best to maintain integrity in our individual dealings and try to limit our dealings to people and institutions that do their best to maintain integrity, it increases our ability to access divine intelligence. In short, integrity is a pathway with which we can access a much greater power—one that the hypermaterialists and transhumanists (or subhumanists as Thomas Meyer calls them) around us cannot access. It is a power that we need – and that is ever more delightful to access in these trying circumstances.

Thomas and I discussed these issues earlier this year in our interview on the Story of Gideon. This included a discussion of the “Midianite” phenomenon—something we are watching with the Epstein affair, the suiciding of New York policemen, and mob wars breaking out across the planet.

I was just in Basel for another week with Thomas—what a privilege this was! Thomas took time out from his busy schedule publishing The Present Age, leading his fascinating circles and salons and lecturing around the world (just back from Finland, next headed to China) to speak with me about integrity. How do we nurture our integrity and that of those around us? The rewards of maintaining integrity—which I define as both competency and ethics—are significant.

I always leave my discussions with Thomas refreshed and restored.

Our Blast from the Past this week is The Future of Europe—my discussion with Thomas Meyer in early 2018.

Our movie this week is Loving Vincent—a remarkable animation of the life of Vincent Van Gogh. It is the first painted animated feature film ever made. You can read more about Van Gogh in Nina Heyn’s Food for the Soul columns covering our visit to the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam this past spring and on the Paris digital exhibit we will see in September.

Subscribers can e-mail or post questions and story suggestions for Money & Markets for this week here.

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37 Comments

  1. When I went to see the Mona Lisa (pre glass case) at the Louvre with other landscape architectural students, 1976, I stood there and thought, “Ok. There it is. I really don’t feel anything but it is interesting”. I walked into the Tulieries alone, made my way up the stairs and came immediately face to face with a self-portrait of Vincent and burst into tears. I could feel his sadness, his self doubt, his pain. I will never forget it. As a painter and designer, Vincent is the artist that said the most to me in France.

  2. From a Subscriber:

    Catherine

    Your most recent Thomas Meyer interview was exceptionally informative. We are fortunate for having his wisdom. I want to comment on the audible frustration I could hear in your voice when you were discussing how you feel unable to communicate certain concepts to the Solari community. When I wrote to you about the Productivity Backlash, and meritocracy vs technocracy, I wasn’t expecting to hear an accurate psychological analysis of my mindset. Yes, you are correct. Having no understanding of the power that a person has is not a good thing. You pointing that out, is very mind-opening in furthering my learning in things I did not learn from a non useful childhood. Sometimes a very blunt statement is best!

    This email is being written to inform that, in my opinion, you have not failed in any way to communicate your complex and insightful ideas. If anything, you are taking on a difficult task and performing it admirably well. I believe that you have ideas that are very foreign to some people, which requires them to rethink existing values and opinions. While still working on improving myself, and my understanding of what it is to be human – your opinions have been a great asset ( example : building a human society seemed like a novel concept when I first heard it long ago, I have fully embraced this as something to be necessary and beautiful )

    Solari has proven to be MUCH more informative than I initially thought it would be upon subscribing – personally being focused on the physical world, while unaware and naïve to the deeper spiritual. You are helping out in more ways than you may be aware of!

    Keep on doing what your doing!

    PS Feel free to post or edit this as you see fit. If it helps others, including yourself, it has served its purpose. Your repeated mention of JS Bach, and links to beautiful music has reignited my love of Classical music. It has been dormant for a long time. I bought a piano last year and have been learning the Goldberg variations. Very soul rejuvenating. I wondered why I have heard Bach as an intro to Solari Reports. Must be to get the audience into a ‘ higher mindset ‘ I do hope that you are aware of the positive force that you are. You are a rare person.

  3. Another fascinating book: The Fellowship, The lives of the Inklings, J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Owen Barfield, Charles Williams
    by Philip & Carol Zaleski
    The Inklings discussed literature, religion, and ideas; read aloud from works in progress; took philosophical rambles in woods and fields; , enjoyed companionship and criticism; and in the process, rewrote the cultural history of modern times.

  4. I enjoyed your interview with Thomas Meyer. I have been convinced that it is absolutely essential for all of us to discover what is good in our universe. We are all surrounded by evil and have no real way to fight it in a material way. If we cannot understand spiritual holiness we will not be able to withstand all of this.
    This is also very difficult. Is literal belief in the bible necessary? Most of the people in the world have lost confidence in the church and really do not know where to look. Your experiences of doing the right thing under extreme pressure and having doors open to you is very interesting and uplifting.

    1. I do not believe that literal belief in the bible is necessary. When I studied the Bible we were required to read the parts that were edited out, including the Book of Thomas and the Book of Enoch. I spent quite a while reading the Essenes. I do not believe any book literally which was edited by both the Vatican and Church of England. 🙂

      There is a tremendous amount that can be gained from reading and studying spiritual texts. You just have to make your way with prayer and discernment and do your best to screen out the efforts to use your hunger for the divine to control and manipulate you.

      There are lot of great preachers. You don’t have to agree with everything to learn tremendous amounts.

      What had the most impact for me was the actual experience of operating by faith rather than sight. This is where the great preachers helped me. They really somehow instilled the important lessons and related scripture in my spirit.

      Good place to start – Pastor Tim Keller’s series on Proverbs. You used to be able to get it on his website. Series of 20+ audios. Amazing.

      1. The bible paints a very consistent picture of who God is, who we are, who the enemy is, and what we need to do in this life to be saved.A lot of that you seem to be throwing out but holding on to some other things. This is foreign to me and I am sure a lot of others with a similar background. I and many others think you either accept it all or reject it all. Are you saying that each person has to develop the discernment to figure out the truth on their own if they are to make any progress in this life?

        1. If I could only take one book with me to read for the rest of my life it would be the Bible. So I hold it in very high esteem. However, any book that was edited by the Church of England and the Vatican is a book to be read with discernment. We are each sovereign individuals and we are responsible for what we believe, what we know, and what we do – and to the extent possible integrating those three.

          If you look at the people who edited the Bible as well as those who run the churches and the related endowments that use the Bible, their behavior clearly indicates that they don’t practice what the Bible says. To me that means they don’t understand it, let alone believe it.

          I don’t think accepting the Bible is a 0 or 1 proposition. I believe I am responsible to create a direct relationship with God – and that is my primary source. I read the Bible for guidance and understanding. I agree with much. I believe some very important things were edited out – my chief concern with the Bible is material omissions – and some I don’t understand. I never worry about the parts I don’t understand – I figure I have enough in this lifetime to try to live up to the teachings of Christ and embracing the covenant of Grace.

          Joseph thinks I would be much better off if I could take time and seriously study theology. I agree with him – question is when/how to create the time. I just got the Complete Works of Aquinas – they are in the pile.

          In the meantime, my focus is to do a better job of living according to Christ. I see enormous opportunity for improvement. For me, Christ’s teachings are best understood by living them.

          It’s a humbling experience.

  6. I did not know we are living in the Age of Michael. I have been busy mapping the darkness to be able to see it I temporarily set aside studying Steiner.
    This was exactly what I wanted and needed to hear.
    Thank you Catherine and Thomas.

  7. Why can’t you win in the material world?

    Isn’t the material world a manifestation of the spiritual?

    If, according to Steiner, Atlantis was destroyed because of the spiritually errant population of the time (us, in a previous incarnation?), wasn’t that a correction in the physical world from the spiritual (Earthquakes and the like? Human/animal chimeras is mixed in somewhere in there, right out of today’s headlines.)?

    How can you summon economics as an accurate bellwether of events if you can’t win in the physical world?

    Is ecology ultimately sustainable? Physical life organizes. That’s the opposite of entropy. From what root does physical life as an organizing principle emerge?

    As above, so below! I think your hierarchy is conceptually twisted, if the physical cannot be in alignment with the spiritual.

    How about a Jesus question(?):
    Why would the meek inherit the earth if you can’t win in the material world?

    1. When he says, Steiner goes to the source, he’s not repeating, that is profound.

      Thank you, Catherine, very stimulating conversation to publish.

    2. We can win in the material world AFTER we will in the spiritual world. Spiritual is the higher power.

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