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Related Reading:
Artificial intelligence on Wikipedia
The Boundaries of Natural Science by Rudolf Steiner
The Real Reason to be Afraid of Artificial Intelligence – Peter Haas
Artificial Intelligence: it will kill us – Jay Tuck
“The estimated bit processing rate of the human brain is approximately 10^16 bit flips per second…. a hand held artilect could flip at 10^40 bits per second. An asteroid sized artilect could flip at 10^52 bits a second. Thus the raw bit processing rate of the artilect could be a trillion trillion trillion (10^36) times greater than the human brain. If the artilect can be made intelligent, using neuroscience principles, it could be made to be truly godlike, massively intelligent and immortal” ~Dr. Hugo de Garis
By Catherine Austin Fitts
This week on The Solari Report, Harry Blazer speaks to Dr. Hugo de Garis about his book, The Artilect War: Cosmists vs. Terrans – A Bitter Controversy Concerning Whether Humanity Should Build Massively Intelligent Godlike Machines, and about the dangers of artificial intelligence or AI.
Dr. de Garis is Australian. He studied theoretical physics and then began developing artificial intelligence. According to Wikipedia, in 1992 he received his PhD from Université Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium. He worked as a researcher at ATR (Advanced Telecommunications Research institute international, 国際電気通信基礎技術研究所), Japan from 1994–2000, a researcher at Starlab, Brussels from 2000–2001, and associate professor of computer science at Utah State University from 2001–2006. Until his retirement in late 2010 he was a professor at Xiamen University [Fujian, China], where he taught theoretical physics and computer science, and ran the Artificial Brain Lab. He is now in the process now of moving back to his native Australia.
Dr. de Garis has serious reservations about the risks associated with artificial intelligence. For the first part of this Solari Report, he and Harry discuss the nature of artificial intelligence and the associated risks. In the process, Harry becomes intrigued with integrating the discussion with other developments in global governance and geopolitics and outlines some of this thoughts on the application of AI to further centralize political and economic control. I have asked our team to make a special video for posting on Thursday of that 20-minute plus section in addition to our regular audio. We will also post Harry’s recommended subscriber links.
In Money & Markets this week I will discuss the latest in financial and geopolitical news from Chartres, France. You can post questions, comments and suggested stories here.
In Let’s Go to the Movies, I will review one of my all-time favorites, the TV series Battlestar Galactica. The human race faces extinction from the attack on the Twelve Colonies of the cybernetic Cylons. A battlestar and a small fleet of surviving humans escape and set out to find the planet Earth while continuing to fight off their Cylon attackers.
Talk to you Thursday!
Hi Catherine and Harry, Great interview and response by Harry…the problem seems to be that AI has no heart and no sense of cherishing our connection with the natural world or each other. Wishing you both an abundance of rainbows!
Thank God for Harry! I was feeling pretty frustrated by Dr. Garis. His intelligence is not in question…his narrow scope is. I think he was surprised by Harry’s point of view and passion.
I think many experts live in a narrow scope – great effort is made to prevent integration. The thought of faster processing in a narrow scope is frightening. If anything it would make the system stupider and less diverse.
This is a dark interview…. Probably one of your darkest.
I need breaks to digest the information.
Yup. Intense.
I almost fell off my chair when I saw “The Artilect War” in an upcoming interview. I’ve turned so many horrified clients at my hair salon onto his book and YouTube interviews over the years, can’t wait to hear this ! Thank you!
Oh, good! I found it to be a fascinating discussion.
Battlestar Galactica: 12 colonies = 12 tribes = 12 lines of the Cosmic Clock. I’ve heard there were robot wars on Mercury, fostered by fallen angels to be used against the Sons of God and Lightbearers. I think that those wars ended in a stalemate. Robots that were biological in nature without souls for the specific purpose of taking control of the planet. Creators of mechanization man who have sown in them seeds of evil, where the machine crosses over to become the biological mechanization man. Seems to me that those wars just moved to Earth, where it’s being played out today.
What will kill humanity off?
AI or geoengineering? Both are fast growing and misused.
After the planet is about dead one needs lots of AI build in your body to even semblance something living on our devastated planet.
Sometimes I wonder how much humans are left, most seem just empty packages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwtijqkJiOyc-WJOaGWOfVGG&v=2OaodxIsXJI
Looking forward to this interview.
I also need to digest the information but it seems a lot of those high IQ guys are brainwashed to use their IQ in a very narrow broadband. No wonder the world is in a not so humane situation since being human is much more then IQ points on a scale. Using speed on accumulated knowledge can only make a very poor semblance of a human being with only dangerous and temporary advantages for humanity.
Have to listen to it again.
Yes. This issue of speed vs. integration is really clear. If you listened to next week’s Solari Report the Wave Genome it helps flush this out. Our brains are not software and our bodies are not hardware. The whole paradigm being promoted is nuts and not in accord with how intelligence works.
I look forward to this one, and am curious to know on what basis he posits (as seems to emerge from the teaser) self-awareness in these artificial creations (and to have self-awareness you need a self to be aware of…).