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  1. Hi Catherine,
    Thank you as always for your insights and the obvious care you have for us, your community. I have admired your way of looking at and elucidating the world for a number of years, and so whenever there is a place of cognitive dissonance between my perception of the world and yours, it’s extremely intriguing. As I was listening to your discussion of disinformation, one of those occasions arose: the strong exception you take to Matthias Desmet’s Mass Formation hypothesis. My own way of understanding the world is grounded in cultural anthropology and (rather casually) systems theory, and how he explains things makes sense to me. I have much less grounding in mind control ops though it is an area I need to better understand. I do not think these are mutually exclusive ideas. I have heard that Desmet has offered to speak publicly with you about your differences on mass formation. I believe that a truly thoughtful discussion between opposing parties is one of the best ways to shed understanding on a controversial issue. I wish very much this kind of debate had been “allowed” by those who controlled the conventional Covid narrative. Would you be open to such a discussion between yourself, the Breggins, and Desmet? I believe it would shed a lot of light on things. Certainly for me, and maybe for others as well.
    With great appreciation for your work,
    Debra

    1. I recommended to Desmet that he write a detailed response to the Breggins book review. That is the right way to do so. He declined. These things need to be put in writing. It was only clear what he was saying when he published his book.

      I need to spend my time on things that are useful for subscribers. More time on this is not productive.

      If you think mass formation is useful, I strongly recommend the following:

      Deep State Tactics Parts 1-12
      https://home.solari.com/blast-from-the-past-deep-state-tactics-101-part-1-with-catherine-austin-fitts/

      Mind Control Tactics (state with lecture of Morgan and Giordano at the end of the links)
      https://home.solari.com/blast-from-the-past-week-of-august-15-2022-mind-control-tactics/

      Control and Freedom Happen One Person at a Time
      https://home.solari.com/control-freedom-happen-one-person-at-a-time-with-ulrike-granogger/

      You can read the more detailed analysis of Peter Breggin, CJ Hopkins and Jon Rappoport – all excellent.

      Humans do share intelligence – authors like Lynne McTaggert and Rupert Sheldrake are good sources to describe this.

      Hope that helps,

      Catherine

      1. Thanks much Catherine. I’ll followup on these resources. I had missed the fact that he had declined an offer to respond in writing. Good to know.
        Debra

      3. If the Breggins wrote an actual review of his book, perhaps Desmet would have been willing to respond. I’d characterize it as a rant, filled with false assertions, ad hominem attacks, and a failure to address Desmet’s basic message. Perhaps they didn’t understand it. I couldn’t for the life of me find the Desmet they were purportedly talking about in their “review.” And then they go on to make global accusations about how Desmet is destroying the attempt to make the whole covid debacle right, which would be true if there were any truth in their diatribe. As it turns out, they’re the ones doing what they accuse Desmet of doing, because they’re simply muddying the waters by dragging Desmet into a quagmire.

        1. What false assertions? Can you be more specific? From everything I have heard they have addressed Desmet’s basic message on numerous occasions. I would say they are more concerned regarding its conversion into psychosis by Dr. Malone.
          Have you read his book carefully? I have. Ulrike wrote a review here. Perhaps that would help. https://home.solari.com/book-review-the-psychology-of-totalitarianism-by-mattias-desmet/
          CJ Hopkins at Consent Factory and Jon Rappoport at No More Fake News have both written new recent pieces on mass formation which I recommend to you.
          It would appear to me that Desmet has a history of misleading statements and material omissions. If a case with that pattern, increasingly hard to take what he says as firm. That is why I prefer to work with his written material – its in black and white.
          The important issue here is not mass formation, it is the weaponization of mental health. This is a much bigger issue problem, which goes way beyond this discussion. Billions being thrown into it. So for me important not to get bogged down in this one aspect but step back and see how we are going to protect ourselves and our loved ones from it and turn it around. The Breggins offer priceless input and support. I am quite grateful for their efforts.

          1. I don’t see any way that professor Desmet’s assertions could be used to weaponize mental health.
            False assertions:1) that there is no conspiracy – he leaves no question that there is an elite that planned this beforehand and continued to use propaganda to brainwash people into accepting the rollout.
            2)That it’s the victims blaming themselves –this is totally baseless. He’s simply explaining how the elites used brainwashing (and the necessary conditions in order for it to be possible) to effectively get the masses to accept the mandates without questioning them.
            3)Just wait it out, see how it goes – he never stops talking about the need to stand up, to continue, at whatever cost, to speak out and challenge the narrative of the elites.
            4)That the elites are not really responsible, that there’s no conspiracy – this is a tricky one. The elites are in charge, they are pulling it off, but it’s important to see that each of us shares a responsibility for the elites to be in power in the first place – we go to their stores, we use their banks, etc. – the crucial thing to see is that if we just destroy the elites, we will simply put in place another one as long as we believe there’s a scientific, rationalist answer for everything – there isn’t – Science has become the new God, that is the problem.
            The real problem: it’s not the line between good and evil. The problem is a worldview, an ideology that thinks we are capable of controlling life. He gives the historical background as to how this came into place. It makes sense to me. The new science, which has forfeited the foundational principles of science, questioning, uncertainty, admitting that we don’t know. Fauci is an example of the new science. We are not to question it/him. He’s one of the new gods.
            I didn’t look at Rappaport’s piece. But Hopkins essentially made a joke out of it, and his piece is a joke. He didn’t even try. He made it all about Hypnosis, and it has nothing to do with Hypnosis.

          2. CJ’s two pieces on Mattis Desmet are quite insightful and not a joke at all. He is quite serious. What he points out is important. The statements of a person with a history of lying about important issues should not be taken seriously.

            Suggest you read Desmet’s book. He attributes the primary driver of the latest round of tyranny to the general population for what has happened, rather than the people who engineered this.

            This is a genocide. IMO, this took a lot of work. A lot of planning and was totally engineered. To say that the people being killed have psychological problem – let alone that is causing this I would describe as “a tad misleading.”

            When the Bolsheviks and Stalin genocided 80MM Russian, no one attributed it to hysteria. I attribute it to Wall Street. Although I would note, the next time someone comes to kill you, your family and your neighbors, you might take offense too. But I would not describe that as mass hysteria or a formation. I would describe that as people not wanting to die who get angry at the people killing them. Quite healthy survival instinct, don’t you think?

            🙂

  2. Thanks Catherine. Most comprehensive.

    If anyone has good information/insight which they don’t want to broadcast along with their name, is there a recommended channel of communication into you and your team ?

  3. Very helpful – thank you. At minute 19 you make mention of further resources look into regarding mind control. I’ve been searching here and there on Solari – and try as I may I am unable to locate the mind control and military info by Giradono & Morgan,
    Lori

  4. Catherine,
    1) My former church building was sold a few weeks ago to a new faith group. I spoke with the President of their church council numerous times about continuing to use the building so that I could continue to homeschool there. He was in complete agreement. We agreed that I would put my stuff in a pile, mark it clearly, and all would be well. I found out a week later that, unbeknownst to him, the clean-up crew came in and threw out all my stuff out.
    The lesson here is: not matter how clearly we can communicate something, our communications still have to be interpreted by someone else. You can’t be held responsible for how someone interprets (or not!) the information you give.

    2) Another though came to me last night about Plato’s Cave. We seem to think that all we need to do is leave the cave ONCE, and all is well after that. I think this is an error. I think that ASPECTS of us leave the cave, but we always leave parts of us behind. The great challenge of spiritual integration is realising that parts of us are still fixated on the shadows AND other parts of us have re-entered the cave (at our own peril) to illuminate our other shackles to ourselves. Maybe that’s too brainiac, but thinking of it that way helps me realise that life is an ongoing process, that is, necessarily, impossible to complete.

  5. Great quote from Walt Whitman, Catherine – that is how I’ve been “filtering” through information. I’m a person with a strong “gut” reaction to information. I’ve been using that to steer away from the fear porn & to be more in protection mode for my family. Also focusing on the “White Pill” hopeful problem solving action side.

  6. where are the asian elders when you need them!!

    two other forms of disinfo are the survivalist consumer and the secret potion / diet / ingredient to solve an ailment / condition etc.

    both unhealthy extremes of important topics.

    survivalist consumerism turns disaster prep into a lifestyle full of the next thing to buy.

    x is the next miracle food / pill / diet turns good food + nutrition into a novelty. this new herb from amazon works miracles. this diet, this food combo, this pill / powder etc.

    both can be marketing by someone with a product to sell. the products are different but prey on the same basic instincts of people as the other scams － insecurity / fear and the desire for a simple solution to a complex problen.

    1. Thank you for pointing out the survivalist meme. Buying food prep buckets was suggested to me with the-end-is-coming mindset. I do not care the focus of that way of seeing the world; it takes you away from the true issues of life. I almost did buy the product but realized I’ve developed my relations with the local farming community where I buy all my food. So that’s my fall back.

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