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“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”
~ Dietrich Bonhoeffer

By Catherine Austin Fitts

Mass Formation is a theory that has circulated over the last year. My immediate reaction upon hearing it was that I could not fathom why anyone would take it seriously. It was proposed by a Belgian professor named Mattias Desmet. To explain why it bore little relationship to the reality of current events, I published an interview with Ulrike Granögger, Control and Freedom Happen One Person at a Time.

I was online last month with ally and friend, Dr. Peter Breggin for the Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium. Peter’s resume, credentials and experience in the field of psychology and psychiatry are second to none. His nickname is “the conscience of psychiatry.” Somehow the theory of mass formation came up – and it turned out Peter shared my criticisms but from a place of much greater expertise. Peter’s brilliant wife Ginger had just finished Desmet’s book “The Psychology of Totalitarianism.” She encouraged Peter and I to read it and help our audience understand the issues involved.

So we read the book. Peter has written a book review (to come) as has Ulrike. Peter joined me yesterday for a discussion. His insights, as always, were right on the money. Our destiny is to confront the evil before us. We are not made safe by theories that distract us from seeing the control grid that is steadily invading all aspects of our life and work or identifying and stopping the people who are lavishly spending our money and resources to build it.

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41 Comments

  1. (Coarse language alert).

    In my healing practice, I sometimes get patients who “worry about their cholesterol” or some other similar topic. This is how the conversation usually evolves:

    Patient: I’m worried about my cholesterol
    Me: No you don’t
    Patient: Yes I do!
    Me: I guarantee you don’t give a shit about your cholesterol
    Patient: [usually a blank stare]
    Me: What you actually care about is being alive 20 years from now to see your daughter get married. Or to play with your grandchildren when they’re small. You’ve been told to care about your cholesterol so many times that you actually think it’s relevant. It isn’t. So, let’s get to work and work together to get you what you actually want, as opposed to what you’ve been told what to believe.

    That’s how I see the Mass Formation. It’s an EXPLANATION. It cannot not provide MEANING. It appeals to individuals who cannot hold the polarity that God exists AND evil exists simultaneously, a paradox which cannot co-exist in the rational mind. The mature mind (aka: Wisdom) tries to make sense of the world that exists, on its own terms. The rational mind lives in a hypothetical world which operates by certain rules that don’t actually exist in real life.

    In other words: God isn’t the Tooth Fairy. Chances are, you’re a Stormtrooper, not Luke Skywalker. So, let’s get to work. Together.

  2. There is a precedent to Desmet’s idea of Mass Formation… it is laid out in a book written in 1933 by Austrian psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. It is called The Mass Psychology of Fascism, and the thrust of the author’s thesis is that Hitler was a creation of the German psyche that collectively sought an authoritarian father figure who would solve all of their economic problems.

    1. You are right. I had forgotten that one. Blaming the victim has been an old and profitable business.

  3. I was not taking notes when listening this time, and there were a few books mentioned. Can anyone list what they are?

    1. Erin,
      I heard these books mentioned: Covid 19 and the Global Predators, Talking Back to Prozac both by Dr Breggin and Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski
      I might have missed one. Hope that helps!
      Jennifer

  4. Thank you for this interview.

    Is’t it strange the problem often is ascribed to a problem in perception of reality but the cure to that “perception problem” is invasive physical treatments and don’t go along with that you risk loosing license to help people!

    I am sad and hurt however, that my little country helps the deep cancerous rot by Desmet big con book.

    2. I’ll third that. I thought I picked up on some narcissism, so alarm bells started going off in my head.

      1. May mine be the 4th and thrilled for such excellent compadres. Malone is off in many ways, saw it after the 3rd interview with Epoch Times, but thought no one else noticed. Thanks Catherine.

    1. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2017/10/opp1175213

      Ghent University
      Grantee website Gent, Belgium
      Purpose

      To understand how food intake during pregnancy and lactation can be improved in undernourished populations with nutritious, fortified, balanced energy-protein food supplements to impact birth outcomes, breastmilk composition, and linear gro

      Division
      Gender Equality,
      Global Growth & Opportunity
      Date
      OCTOBER 2017
      Region served
      GLOBAL,
      AFRICA
      Committed amount
      $6,313,112
      Grant topic
      MNCH Discovery and Tools,
      Nutrition
      Duration (months)
      74
      Grantee location
      Gent, Belgium
      https://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/committed-grants/2011/04/opp1035848

      Ghent University Hospital
      Ghent, Belgium
      Purpose

      To analyze biomarkers and mRNA transcripts to discover well-defined biomarkers that can be used to assess the extent of the latent HIV reservoir in patients with an undetectable viral load.

      Division
      Global Health
      Date
      APRIL 2011
      Region served
      GLOBAL
      Committed amount
      $100,000
      Grant topic
      Discovery and Translational Sciences
      Duration (months)
      31
      Grantee location
      Ghent, Belgium

      1. Oh my GOD. I am sick to my stomach but not surprised. UGH. He is a plant. I still think Desmet may be an actor, but that “smooth operator” has a LOT of peeps I know and love fooled. Mr Global is really good at choosing his chew toys to create cover stories.

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