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There has been a revolution in how we perceive the body. What appears to be an object, a three-dimensional anatomical structure, is actually a process, a constant flow of energy and information.”
~ Deepak Chopra

By Catherine Austin Fitts

Dr. Tom Cowan has spent a lifetime trying to understand the human mind and body and teach people how to be healthy. He is well known for his excellent books on heart health and the role of water in our bodies.

Tom joined me on the Solari Report in June 2020 to discuss the fallacies of germ theory. As a founding board member and supporter of the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF), Tom co-authored The Contagion Myth with WAPF founder and president Sally Fallon Morell, who also joined us on the Solari Report at the time of the book’s publication in September 2020.

The topics addressed by Tom and Sally are important, as our history is filled with one virus fraud after another—frauds used to justify or cover up all manner of poisonings and financial frauds. As I see it, virus frauds are, among other reasons, stealth tools that central bankers use to engineer deflation and centralize ownership of assets without having to raise interest rates so high that they inspire mobs with pitchforks to come after them. They also raise important questions on the mysterious ingredients in pharmaceuticals and what they have to do with transhumanism and the smart grid.

When I was in Knoxville at the excellent Weston A. Price Foundation conference last fall, Tom’s wonderful son Asher, who runs their Dr. Cowan’s Garden business, engaged with me in open discussion at our Solari gathering about whether viruses exist and whether settling that debate is a good use of our time and resources.

When I first investigated the issue, I listened to Tom and Jon Rappoport argue that viruses don’t exist. I also listened to numerous doctors and scientists for whom I have the greatest respect argue that they do. At the time, I concluded two things—first, that to study and get to the bottom of the debate sufficient to form an independent educated opinion would take me a great deal of time, and second, that doing so would not be a good use of my time. I decided to focus on bringing transparency to what I call the “great poisoning,” including virus frauds (which can occur whether viruses exist or not), highlighting their relationship to the financial system and the governance system that engineers them, and working to prevent the control grid from maturing into a slavery system. I preferred to spend my time helping people resist the conversion of the financial system into a control grid.

Meanwhile, Tom and I continued our conversation online, and he now joins me again on the Solari Report to keep the discussion going. Tom believes passionately that viruses do not exist and is convinced that bringing transparency to that fact will decimate the virus frauds and the push for central control. As a tactical matter, I do not agree.

Where we do agree is that the virus debate is part of a much bigger issue. At this time, when efforts to integrate numerous systems and “harvest” the human body in entirely new ways are accelerating—including proposals to launch CBDCs and link them to the human body as a “battery”—we urgently need a paradigm that recognizes our body as both physical and electromagnetic. After Tom and I concluded our discussion, I decided to ask Ulrike Granögger to join me for our discussion of “The Economy of the Energy Body” to provide critical background on some of these issues. Given the enthusiastic subscriber response to that interview, it seems that many understand the importance of this topic.

In short, Tom and I both agree that significant breakthroughs in our understanding of our electromagnetic body are desperately needed and can serve the dual causes of personal health and freedom. That said, as you will see in our interview, our debate about tactics continues—respectfully anchored in our mutual love of free speech.

Money & Markets

In Money & Markets this week, John Titus and I will cover the latest events and discuss the financial and geopolitical trends Solari is tracking in 2023—and the growing pushback against corruption. Post questions at the Money & Markets commentary here.

Related Solari Reports:

Book Review: Human Heart, Cosmic Heart – By Thomas Cowan MD

Book Review: Cancer and the New Biology of Water by Thomas Cowan, MD

The Fallacies of Germ Theory with Dr. Thomas Cowan

The Contagion Myth with Sally Fallon Morell

The Economy of the Energy Body with Ulrike Granögger

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123 Comments

  1. Wow this was SO worth the full watch! The headbutting was a bit uncomfortable at first but in retrospect I truly value that it took place and my respect for both Catherine and Tom has grown. Chapeau!

  2. On a quick note, Tom mentioned that a perfect circle would not naturally exist in the body. I believe the same has been said about nature where we will not find any perfect geometric shape. Moutains can be triangular, for example, but we wouldn’t find a perfect triangle. Interesting to ponder for sure.

  3. Hi,

    For those interesting in getting the book that Dr. Cowan recommended, it is available directly from the publisher. Quite expensive as these are books from an Academic press who primarily sell them to about 300 university libraries around the world.

    Harold Hillman: Case for New Paradigms in Cell Biology and in Neurobiology
    Edwin Mellen Press – $239.99
    https://mellenpress.com/book/Case-for-New-Paradigms-in-Cell-Biology-and-in-Neurobiology/1501/

    The table of contents is available here:
    https://external.dandelon.com/download/attachments/dandelon/ids/DE006360D706EF5AE818AC1257A360045993C.pdf

    An interesting review of the book in the Biochemical Education journal available here:
    https://iubmb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1016/0307-4412%2894%2990064-7

      1. I got a copy of Hillman’s book via inter-library loan. I found it repetitious, but its point is fundamental — that researchers learn little about living systems after they’ve killed and fixed the specimens, and so today’s microbiologists etc foolishly sally forth knowing almost nothing about the internal workings of life at the cellular level. Catherine mentioned that she wanted to read Mae-Wan Ho’s “The Rainbow and the Worm”. Tom much preferred Hlllman’s book. After reading both, The Rainbow is the most thrilling testimony to life. It’s enthralling, easier to read, and persuasively argues for the infinite complexity of life.

    1. Thank you. I went on Amazon to look for the publisher. But this link is so helpful. I will get this book. After listening to this interview, I feel it’s a worthwhile investment.

  4. As a homeopath, the only thing that matters is the patient’s reaction to a stimulus. That’s why so many people can react so differently to the same stimulus. And that’s why you can never treat “disease” systematically.

    Diseases aren’t nouns. Diseases are verbs, and you can’t “see” verbs. What you can “see” are nouns moving around in space. Using a materialistic (noun) based paradigm to understand a verb-based phenomenon (energy) will get you exactly where we are now – nowhere without a paddle. It just doesn’t work.

    That been said, part of the larger debate is: what is health? The vast majority of people have no idea what health actually is. They think it is the absence of disease, which is NOT true. I’ve worked with so many people who say, “I was in perfect health and then I got XYZ”. When you study their cases in more detail, you can see they were on the XYZ trajectory for years before the diagnosis. They are completely oblivious to the fact that they have been in poor health for years, decades, or even since they were children.

  5. Catherine and Tom,

    In vast debt am I to you both; maximal gratitude.

    If Rappoport saved the bacon, Cowan saved the whole ranch.

    Isolation Masturbation? Invisibility Senility? Where’s Waldo?
    who cares so…

    is there evidence that sick people make healthy people sick? or not?

    and of course this rhetorical question must be faced; else how will it be fixed?

    NR

  6. I practice medicine, and I am in the trenches of sickness every day. I stand by the early 20th century work of Royal Raymond Rife and the 21st century work of Drs Judy Mikovitz and Leonard Horowitz. Viruses are absolutely real, and they can be visualized with special microscopes. Viruses have been clandestinely manipulated by the department of defense since the 1950’s, and play a HUGE role in the weaponization of cancer. This idea of “there is no such thing as a virus” falls in line with the same idea as a “flat earth.” It’s simply not true. Viruses emit a an individual frequency that can be detected with a Rife machine or a Zyto scan, then neutralized by using their own frequency against them. Thousands of people are being healed with Spooky2 Rife machines that target viruses. I had to turn this interview off because this guy is part of a growing cult not rooted in reality.

    1. Laurie,the reality is that you do not know that the photographs you describe are actually viruses. They could be exosomes or other extra vesicular matter. Or they could be artifacts. Three conditions must be met to conclude there are viruses. First virions must be isolated and separated from all other genetic material. Secondly the particles need to be shown to be replication competent. Thirdly the particles need to be shown to be pathogenic. None of these conditions have ever been met. Please also be aware the mainstream virology literature cautions researchers not to confuse what are called coronaviruses with exosomes . LOL. If two nano particles share the same morphology the scientific presumption should be they are the same particle.

  7. My volume comment became irrelevant for this interview because I turned it off. I have much respect for both of you. Seems like Jupiter and Mars must have been doing a dance somewhere in your birth chart the day of the interview. The arguing was pointless and off putting. Ultimately, everyone walks their own path and we can’t walk it for them.

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