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“There has been a revolution in how we perceive the body. What appears to be an object, a three-dimensional anatomical structure, is actually a process, a constant flow of energy and information.”
~ Deepak Chopra
By Catherine Austin Fitts
Dr. Tom Cowan has spent a lifetime trying to understand the human mind and body and teach people how to be healthy. He is well known for his excellent books on heart health and the role of water in our bodies.
Tom joined me on the Solari Report in June 2020 to discuss the fallacies of germ theory. As a founding board member and supporter of the Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF), Tom co-authored The Contagion Myth with WAPF founder and president Sally Fallon Morell, who also joined us on the Solari Report at the time of the book’s publication in September 2020.
The topics addressed by Tom and Sally are important, as our history is filled with one virus fraud after another—frauds used to justify or cover up all manner of poisonings and financial frauds. As I see it, virus frauds are, among other reasons, stealth tools that central bankers use to engineer deflation and centralize ownership of assets without having to raise interest rates so high that they inspire mobs with pitchforks to come after them. They also raise important questions on the mysterious ingredients in pharmaceuticals and what they have to do with transhumanism and the smart grid.
When I was in Knoxville at the excellent Weston A. Price Foundation conference last fall, Tom’s wonderful son Asher, who runs their Dr. Cowan’s Garden business, engaged with me in open discussion at our Solari gathering about whether viruses exist and whether settling that debate is a good use of our time and resources.
When I first investigated the issue, I listened to Tom and Jon Rappoport argue that viruses don’t exist. I also listened to numerous doctors and scientists for whom I have the greatest respect argue that they do. At the time, I concluded two things—first, that to study and get to the bottom of the debate sufficient to form an independent educated opinion would take me a great deal of time, and second, that doing so would not be a good use of my time. I decided to focus on bringing transparency to what I call the “great poisoning,” including virus frauds (which can occur whether viruses exist or not), highlighting their relationship to the financial system and the governance system that engineers them, and working to prevent the control grid from maturing into a slavery system. I preferred to spend my time helping people resist the conversion of the financial system into a control grid.
Meanwhile, Tom and I continued our conversation online, and he now joins me again on the Solari Report to keep the discussion going. Tom believes passionately that viruses do not exist and is convinced that bringing transparency to that fact will decimate the virus frauds and the push for central control. As a tactical matter, I do not agree.
Where we do agree is that the virus debate is part of a much bigger issue. At this time, when efforts to integrate numerous systems and “harvest” the human body in entirely new ways are accelerating—including proposals to launch CBDCs and link them to the human body as a “battery”—we urgently need a paradigm that recognizes our body as both physical and electromagnetic. After Tom and I concluded our discussion, I decided to ask Ulrike Granögger to join me for our discussion of “The Economy of the Energy Body” to provide critical background on some of these issues. Given the enthusiastic subscriber response to that interview, it seems that many understand the importance of this topic.
In short, Tom and I both agree that significant breakthroughs in our understanding of our electromagnetic body are desperately needed and can serve the dual causes of personal health and freedom. That said, as you will see in our interview, our debate about tactics continues—respectfully anchored in our mutual love of free speech.
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Related Solari Reports:
Book Review: Human Heart, Cosmic Heart – By Thomas Cowan MD
Book Review: Cancer and the New Biology of Water by Thomas Cowan, MD
The Fallacies of Germ Theory with Dr. Thomas Cowan
The Contagion Myth with Sally Fallon Morell
The Economy of the Energy Body with Ulrike Granögger
Related Reading:
- Dr. Tom Cowan
- Dr. Cowan’s Garden
- Asher Cowan
- Book Review: Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht & Claus Köhnlein
- Book Review: The Moth in the Iron Lung by Forrest Maready
- Book Review: The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe
- The Rebirth of Nature with Rupert Sheldrake
I am glad Catherine took a sceptical stance on Dr. Cowan’s theories although it was frustrating at times when they were arguing about things they were actually agreeing on. Somehow the interview didn’t quite flow like all other Solari interviews I’ve listened to. I’m a long way off being persuaded by the viruses don’t exist theory but Dr Cowan did a good job at explaining the serious short comings of the “science” behind germ theory. I also don’t fully agree with Catherine that the argument isn’t important when vaccines are being used as a weapon against the people and this has been planned for many decades and is a particularly important tool for the transhumanism programme. Germ theory may also be used to control the food supply as has been seen with BSE, FMD and now H5N1.
What would be great would be for Catherine to chair a debate between one of her MD friends who believe in Germ Theory with a proponent on terrain theory such as Dr Sam Bailey or Roman Bystrianyk. How about Malone, McCullough, Yeadon, Bystrianyk, Bailey and Cowan in the ring?
Catherine, I appreciate you showing you are on your mission & your tenacity to stay the course.
Even though the interview provided differences of opinion that were not as coherent as we are familiar with, I really appreciate Tom’s point of view that maybe these things don’t exist.The thought never occurred to me that we do not have an immune system or that viruses don’t exist.
Regardless of what the truth is, is it always good to question our thoughts and we perceive to be reality.
Thank you for providing another way to look at the world.
Catherine and Dr. Tom, both my husband and I find that we’ve got Vagus nerve or CNS autonomic disruptions, like irregular or skipped heartbeats, or weak and faint feelings with temperature and blood pressure changes. This is worse at night. Often, we wake to all silver skies or a mix of silver with wide swaths of HAARPed trails and know “they” have been busy while we sleep. We are wondering if your research has revealed that not just thoughts/impulses but physical changes like I’ve described can be conveyed to us now? We understand that we are energetic beings, with the physical body simply being the most dense of our bodies, but until now hadn’t considered that ALL of these bodies could be intentionally impaired or altered. Your thoughts? Thank you. (Catherine I wonder if Ulrike might also want to weigh in on this?)
You may consider doing a free experiment. Your issue may be closer to your bed than up in the air. For a week, turn off the circuit breaker(s) that powers your bedroom, especially the outlets behind your bed before going to sleep. Also turn off all cell phones and leave them in the car and turn the wifi off. For me, the improvement in sleep was incredible. I am sensitive to it, but I have noticed it with my children as well. Good luck!
Sorry, didn’t see your reply until now. Thank you for your thoughts about this! You bring up a good point for those unaware of EMFs. I happen to be EMF sensitive, so have no cellphone, turn off most all of the power in the home at night to include power to the router, and live in a home that has been EMF proofed in every way possible. That’s why in our case, we could eliminate EMFs as well as coincidentally, poisoning from our food and our water supply. We get food from local ranchers and farmers or grow it ourselves. We have a Rife machine going in order to fill our environment with healing frequencies. We meditate, live a prayerful life, allow only heart-based well-intentioned friends into our lives, and so many other things to address mind, body, and spirit.
We’re quite sure there is a correlation between the parasympathetic response and the chemtrail/HAARP activity as we live on a mountain side and watch the panoramic view of the horizon, particularly when we first get up and look to the Northern sky. We used to have a ranch 60 miles North, and although one would think the rural areas would be skipped, we found it to have the most intense geo-engineering we’d ever seen. So that’s the sky we’re looking out at as it typically drifts down from the North and we see this when we rise in the morning, assessing whether or not it was “busy up there” during the night.
Bottom line: On “normal cloud” days we don’t have the parasympathetic breakdowns like the “silver sky” and the “angel wings all in a row” days.
I think Catherine, you are either under estimate yourself and ability to grasp the system Tom is trying to flesh out, or something about it threatens a belief.
I listen to Tom and others along his terrain theory lines, and others in the “Health Freedom” camp. I think it Tom’s findings and explanations align perfectly with what Solari is trying to do. The enslavement of man is the truth underpinning it all.
Our intelligence is manipulated with medical “science,” just as it is with economic manipulations.
There is no way to protect oneself from the Great Poisoning unless you know what isn’t true or proven…and there is much devious lying going on in “Virology.” Poisoning of the body and MIND.
You mentioned recently you have started learning about Dr Joe Dispenza’s work. This may perhaps help make sense of this.
I feel grateful to know that fraud exists in medicine, right down to the lack of evidence of virus/viral contagion. It HAS changed how I get out of the control grid, because how I view my health and WHAT can or cant be done to me DOES empower me just knowing HOW value (assets) can get taken and save and secured.
Virology is mind control. I hope you have another conversation with Tom.
This is a beautiful post Catherine made in the thread of comments on the interview of Tom Cowan regarding Germ Theory. It rings so true for me for this interview also.
“It is about control and risk management. The invisible enemy works. Unfortunately, it is backed up with mind control which seems to be remarkably effective these days.
“For endless war, you must have an enemy who cannot be caught, who is completely vaporous, therefore necessitating nonstop aggressive emergency measures…. The perfect enemy for a state that seeks endless war and strives forever to pull the wool over the eyes of its own citizens for purposes of endless robbery and implementing slavery where freedom previously existed would be an enemy who cannot, under any circumstances, ever be caught. …In the literal sense, this perfect enemy does not exist, which makes [it] perfect for a society determined to make war, because [it] will never be caught and the war can continue forever. The harder an enemy is to find and defeat, the better it is for those who seek to profit from the staged campaign to destroy that enemy.” ~ John Kaminski, The Perfect Enemy
(Credit to Sofia Smallstorm’s excellent newsletter for bringing this book and quote to our attention) “
We have to disagree. Of course I can follow Tom’s argument. What I can not do without a significant investment of time,is hold my own against a bevy of brilliant scientists who I know and respect TO MY SATISFACTION. And my time is important to me. I choose to invest it in a way that is most valuable and effective in the next week, month, year. I have 100 items in my research parking lot. And this is not high on the list as I think it will make little to no difference tactically. That is a sound strategic decision.
I was really disappointed in how Catherine was responding to Tom in the beginning. He was trying to explain it to her but she seemed bound and determined not to listen, and because she isn’t a ‘scientist’ she was acting like it’s not possible for her to know and understand. But isn’t that the very thinking she is trying to educate people against? LISTEN to what he was saying. It doesn’t matter that other people don’t have the resources around them to learn. Listening to this report would help them too. Also, this subscription is so expensive each year, that how could the basic american even get the information she puts out. They can’t afford HERS either! I thought this was a very good video considering her stubbornness to NOT understand what he was delivering. Quit being so locked down Catherine! Be OPEN and understanding will come. Sorry, I respect Catherine a lot, but this was disappointing to see her behave like that.
I have spent $5,000+ dollars to maintain my membership at Solari over the last decade or so. The most valuable membership I have ever had.
Everyone has to make a choice. Cable TV, or Solari membership. New smart phone, or Solari membership. I dropped tv all together, and have a not so smart phone. Now I have enough for my Solari membership.
My most concrete understandings of anything discussed here at Solari come from reading the books reviewed, or mentioned in passing (listen carefully). I get clues from interviews, and videos, but the real meat, the real understanding of anything comes from taking the time to read.
If I could only read faster!
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Shannon:
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Catherine
What if that which we experience with our senses is evidence of standing electromagnetic waves?
This had to be one of the most unintentionally hilarious interviews ever. I was laughing out loud on a long drive, so thank you. Mostly because your thoughts passed like two ships in the night. I have no idea what to think about this virus debate, but frankly I just want to know what to do to not get sick and to get better if I am, so it’s somewhat of a moot point. Way back in high school (back when they used to teach things…) they taught us what constitutes a life form. Then they taught us about viruses. I said, well those dont seem to meet the requirements of something that’s alive based on what we just learned. I’ve been confused with them ever since. One part of me says Tom is right and all this microbiology mess is sort of like when someone invents an interesting fictional book, like Lord of the Rings, and a bunch of other authors add to the story with their books and it takes on a life of it’s own. Except it’s all just made up. But on the other hand, something is getting folks sick and it’s kind of hard to believe that all these PhD’s are just messing around with nothing for no apparent reason. It seems more of them would figure out that it was nonsense if so.