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  2. Dear Catherine,
    I’m a loyal listener and subscriber, but Joseph Farrell’s comments about Muslim, especially Syrian, refugees were so extreme that I am shocked you allowed it to pass. Furthermore, his idealization of his idea of the surpremacy of Western “Civilization” demonstrates a willful ignorance and prejudice that is jaw-dropping in the light of history.

    Must I explain? His idea of an “unreformed, medieval religion” supposes that what is represented by ISIS or the Taliban is intrinsically related to a religion that in the 7th Century condemned all forms of racism, encouraged scientific research, assigned rights to women that were not achieved in the “West” until the 20th Century, condemned aggression and fighting except in the establishment of human rights, established moral principles for a “Just War” that have not been achieved till this day in the West, and established a rule of law that allowed, for instance, the communities and sacred sites of Christianity and Judaism to be protected for the last 14 centuries in Jerusalem, and for 7 centuries throughout the Ottoman Empire (also referred to as a Caliphate).

    It also should be recognized that Islamic/Quranic theology does not claim a monopoly on truth, is relatively free of dogma and clerical privilege, and emphasizes using one’s intelligence and seeking objective knowledge as a religious imperative.

    I hasten to add that if Joseph actually met most Syrian (or even Libyan) refugees he would understand that they are just people, at least as well educated as Americans, warm, generous, not inclined to religious extremism or intolerance, fleeing conditions mostly created as a result of American and NATO aggression, and furthermore supported by covert Saudi-Israeli-US aid to what should be called “Islamist Totalitarianism.”

    I would be happy to talk to either of you, since I have benefited so much from his and your knowledge in the past. For much greater detail, I would also be willing to share a pre-publication pdf of my forthcoming book: Holistic Islam: Sufism, Transformation, and The Chellenge of Our Time. ~Kabir Helminski

    1. Edmund:

      Yes, I thought some subscribers would be surprised that I let it pass.

      My challenge on Part 1 and Part II is that because of the change, it took a record amount of time. If I wanted to pursue the topic, it is a major issue that deserves its own show. I have spoken with Joseph about this and there is no way to do it quickly.

      I will post your note to Joseph. I would certainly value a copy of your book.

      Catherine

      1. Hi Catherine,

        How funny, I’ve commented that this was a vast improvement from his previous comments on Islam! He went from barbaric to medical. This is a step in the right direction in my opinion. I’ve had the same issue with Dr. Farrell as well. He and I had a heated exchange to the point I was expelled from the Giza Death Star Community!

        Dr. Farrell is a brillant man and I respect his right to have an opinion. I still listen to his interviews and even though I’ve been excommunicated from the Giza community I recognize his efforts in making sense of world’s matrix. There’s a lot I agree with and there’s a lot I disagree with on his views of Islam. My stance in our argument was, all the major 3 religions plays a role in human suppression. Why is Islam being singled out as an extreme culprit or classified as “barbarians?” He has eased up on using that labeled since our exchange. Dr. Farrell quotes Islamic text, but my argument is/was where and who translated that text?. Arabic is a very complicated language and classical Arabic is even more complicated. In the language there are 31 letters in the alphabet each letter is subject to almost 12 different accents when formulating words and can influence its meaning along with other word combinations. If Dr. Farrell is quoting specific Islamic texts that influences his views on Islam (which he did in our exchange) who translated the text and what’s their experience and connection with Islam? Unless Dr. Farrell is fluent in classical Arabic and his opinions on Islam are based of his own interpretations. Each sect of Islam has translated (called hadith) the Koran to serve their agenda and Wahhabism is the worse of the worse. There’s no difference in Christianity with the Protestant translation of the Bible being completely different from the Eastern Orthodox translation of the bible.

        Catherine you’ve said it best, that this is all part of Mr. Global’s plan of divide and conquer and it’s surprising that Dr. Farrell doesn’t share that same view.

        Najat

        1. It is on my list to dig in an figure out what is going on. I think two things that started the problem was in 1996, the Muslim population surpassed the Catholic church and was the fastest growing religion both globally and in the US. In addition if the US was going to be global hegemon and Mr. Global was going to convert to a digital money system than Islamic law and banking practices presented an obstacle. Then there were also close ties between Nazi International and Islam and exopolitics in the middle east and various politics of control sacred sites. However, I have never dived into the philosophy and cultural issues and it is dawning on me that I can not put this off much longer. So I will think about setting aside time in 2017.

          1. That’s awesome Catherine.

            I am a Muslim. I am not a practicing Muslim but identify as a Muslim because culturally that’s what I know. I have my issues with Islam but those issues are personal. I’ve never studied Islam or practiced it. I know what I know through family, society, and reading.

            Jay Dyer recently put out a podcast on Orthodoxy and the New Religion. He made comparisons to Islam and Judaism to the Eastern Orthodox teachings. He said something I agreed with, that since Islam has no personal relationship to God, Islam a form slavery. I absolutely agree with that because the translation of Islam means to submission. At the same time, there are parts of Islam that pushes for the rights of the individual through its banking practices and property rights. So there’s a contradiction and how did this contradictions happen?

            In 1972 the Great Mosque of Sanaa in Yemen during renovations there was a discovery of fragments of an original Quran dating 70 years after the death of the Prophet Mohamed that had no vowel markings or dots. It was researched by a GERMAN scholar Dr. Gerd Puin. Each word in the Fragmented Quran without any vowel marking each word can have up to 30 different meanings. The current Quran used today with the markings is the CAIRO edition. Another GERMAN scholar under the pseudonym Christopher Luxembourg claims that there was another Quran in the Syro-Aramaic language describes variations of the texts different from the CAIRO edition.

            Guess who has the Sanaa Fragmented edition of the Quran? The Saudis. Who is currently bombing Yemen? The Saudis……

            It’s kind of a mess. This is just my “surface” connecting of the dots. I am sure it is much deeper.
            That’s why I get defensive labeling Islam as “medical or barbaric” because to quote varied texts and apply it to an argument is simplifying a much bigger and deeper picture. Someone like Dr. Farrell is way, Way, WAY too smart for that.

            Najat

  3. When Western powers and their vassals repeatedly poke Islamic cultures with a stick for one hundred years and select for radicalism to do their bidding it is no surprise all you have left are thugs garbed in “unreformed medieval religion” like ISIS barbarism. Earlier versions of violence dressed in religion brought humanity the Crusades and Witch burning. Remove all other opportunities and all you have left is extremism.

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