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1. Great conversation between you and Jos. The AI issue is it’s being sold as a panacea, with people jumping on board, but it’s more of a Pandora’s Box. I cover a lot of the basic problems in this article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/aye-robot-john-dzwonczyk/ .

   Basically, I maintain that we really do not have a philosophy that intrinsically gives purpose. We have had many duties imparted to us by The Gods, The State, The Family, One-Another, etc. throughout our history, all of which are susceptible to the transference of labor to machines. This may be what Joseph is getting at with his speculation on what the Chinese are up to with re-tooling culture. What will we do when machines do the work?

   Additionally, it should be pointed out that the full-spectrum dominance, down to the molecular level (which I think you meant metaphorically), is actually the purpose of neutrino communications and what I was debating with Ulrike about. It’s LITERALLY the thing you cannot hide from. Right down to the molecular level.

   1. Yes. I believe we are already in a “nowhere to hide” world.

      1. From a practical standpoint, I think that is correct for the West. Who is to say for much of the hidden world, outside of the urban areas? Meanwhile, we have “intelligence services” that can’t tell what the nuclear, missile lifting or targeting capabilities of North Korea are, even as its leader threatens us. What’s wring with this picture?

2. Catherine

   As we await to see the new patch for the Space Force I thought you and your members may want to see all the “interesting” patches from the different mission of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). Take a look, kind of dark & creepy.
   https://www.google.com/search?q=national+reconnaissance+office+patches&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=htv5gOVldTPuDM%252CLFBJD9CJicg9HM%252C_&usg=__bU122U6GQBKa6VUBUGHqjXeC7us%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjc16Ogsf_bAhVHlKwKHbNGA_IQ_h0I1gEwDg&biw=1273&bih=645#imgrc=htv5gOVldTPuDM:

   1. Always imagined they had a lot of fun making these up!

      1. At taxpayer expense. Happen to be reading Dark Mission by Hoagland and Bara. NASA is another Deep State extravaganza of secrecy, occult and hidden agendas. Truly hidden in every respect.

3. Catherine

   As we await to see the new patch for the Space Force I thought you and your members may want to see all the “interesting” patches from the different mission of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). Take a look, kind of dark & creepy.
   https://www.google.com/search?q=national reconnaissance office patches&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=htv5gOVldTPuDM%2CLFBJD9CJicg9HM%2C_&usg=__bU122U6GQBKa6VUBUGHqjXeC7us=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjc16Ogsf_bAhVHlKwKHbNGA_IQ_h0I1gEwDg&biw=1273&bih=645#imgrc=htv5gOVldTPuDM:

   1. Always imagined they had a lot of fun making these up!

      1. At taxpayer expense. Happen to be reading Dark Mission by Hoagland and Bara. NASA is another Deep State extravaganza of secrecy, occult and hidden agendas. Truly hidden in every respect.

4. When Veterans go for medical appointments they are being asked two questions. Have you fallen down during the last year and have you felt depressed. IMO the question about depression is about guns.

   Just thinking out loud about A.I.

   Is the goal of A.I.to learn all human knowledge including everything about the earth, animals, plants and insects? If so once that is accomplished where does A.I. go to keeping learning?
   Will A.I. have morals? know what is right and wrong? In today’s society truth is at war with deception, so how is A.I. to be programmed? Will it include exoteric or esoteric knowledge? What about religion? mysticism? occultism? Will A.I. be programmed to be master-think or slave-think?

   Remember Aaron Swartz? It seems that Aaron was creating his own A.I. (there are many at this time) and connected it to the MIT network to download it’s information. He was arrested and charged with wire fraud and offered a plea deal that he rejected. A few days later he was found at his home dead due to hanging. Did he find something on the MIT computer that put his life in danger?

   I understand that many A.I. developers name their creations after names of characters in movies. One is called Tyler after the movie “Fight Club”. Next time you read zerohedge look at the name of writer of the article.

   Also, if you suspect that you are communicating with an A.I. on line just start replying by using phrases from Shakespeare. If it does not answer, it is an A.I.

   1. Catherine

      Almost forgot. Here is another A.I. named after a movie character.

      http://fortune.com/2018/06/07/mit-psychopath-ai-norman/

5. When Veterans go for medical appointments they are being asked two questions. Have you fallen down during the last year and have you felt depressed. IMO the question about depression is about guns.

   Just thinking out loud about A.I.

   Is the goal of A.I.to learn all human knowledge including everything about the earth, animals, plants and insects? If so once that is accomplished where does A.I. go to keeping learning?
   Will A.I. have morals? know what is right and wrong? In today’s society truth is at war with deception, so how is A.I. to be programmed? Will it include exoteric or esoteric knowledge? What about religion? mysticism? occultism? Will A.I. be programmed to be master-think or slave-think?

   Remember Aaron Swartz? It seems that Aaron was creating his own A.I. (there are many at this time) and connected it to the MIT network to download it’s information. He was arrested and charged with wire fraud and offered a plea deal that he rejected. A few days later he was found at his home dead due to hanging. Did he find something on the MIT computer that put his life in danger?

   I understand that many A.I. developers name their creations after names of characters in movies. One is called Tyler after the movie “Fight Club”. Next time you read zerohedge look at the name of writer of the article.

   Also, if you suspect that you are communicating with an A.I. on line just start replying by using phrases from Shakespeare. If it does not answer, it is an A.I.

   1. Catherine

      Almost forgot. Here is another A.I. named after a movie character.

      http://fortune.com/2018/06/07/mit-psychopath-ai-norman/

6. As a mystic, I would put forth that the world we live in is conscious…at different levels for sure, but all the consciousness of Prime Creator. So any system that has feed back loops and individual intend will become conscious–given enough complexity… Why do we need an mechanical AI? We have intuition and spiritual insight with a planetary consciousness and earth’s web of life… All of which, from my point of view, is here to help us to create and grow as human beings. Who desires this one focus and one theme future…? Their salesmen are many and ubiquitous but they are selling us that this is the only way to space and the galactic neighbors or this is the only way a solve their manufactured problems which they theatrically projected on us. First we were innocent but now we are becoming foolish. As I clarified before, I am a mystic and our intuition is just beginning to develop…we are babies. Most people think that most voices with in their head are theatrics of their own making and some voices and images are… some are from unseen beings, cell phones have a psychic conduction, and some from spiritual friends… If you were a telepathic species, how would you view us? Do we need to follow the herd to be become organic prosthetic of a mechanize consciousness? If you have got this far in my message, I would encourage you put your cell in metal pot (if you use it for an alarm, you will hear it) and turn off WiFi before you sleep… and be in nature as much as possible. This will allow your evolution into a more aware and free being. Much Love.

   1. Leadership needs AI to control and harvest a telepathic people with a powerful consciousness. And you ionize the atmosphere so that digital mechanisms and AI can track, simulate and manage all life. I don’t think we think we need this. I also think most of we do not understand what is happening.

      1. Thank you for your response. I feel that I have not communicated my position well. I think partly because moved by the video of ‘Elon Musk’s recent comments’. We should not surrender ours selves to AI. Although It seems to be the only item on the menu from their lips… Another path is to continue to develop our natural abilities with spiritual insight and move to the Stars as humans with tools. (Not as tools.) Also, that with greater intuition and instinctual wisdom, comes greater transparency…which is why the current electronic smog is becoming so thick. Lastly, I am a student of esoteric knowledge and also a critic of many of today’s mystery schools. My first criticism is the suppression of the divine feminine–both principles, the divine masculine and the divine feminine are needed for spiritual advancement. My second criticism is the suppression of the population by controlling access to this information. Thank you for service to humanity and your promotion of a free and inspired life.

7. As a mystic, I would put forth that the world we live in is conscious…at different levels for sure, but all the consciousness of Prime Creator. So any system that has feed back loops and individual intend will become conscious–given enough complexity… Why do we need an mechanical AI? We have intuition and spiritual insight with a planetary consciousness and earth’s web of life… All of which, from my point of view, is here to help us to create and grow as human beings. Who desires this one focus and one theme future…? Their salesmen are many and ubiquitous but they are selling us that this is the only way to space and the galactic neighbors or this is the only way a solve their manufactured problems which they theatrically projected on us. First we were innocent but now we are becoming foolish. As I clarified before, I am a mystic and our intuition is just beginning to develop…we are babies. Most people think that most voices with in their head are theatrics of their own making and some voices and images are… some are from unseen beings, cell phones have a psychic conduction, and some from spiritual friends… If you were a telepathic species, how would you view us? Do we need to follow the herd to be become organic prosthetic of a mechanize consciousness? If you have got this far in my message, I would encourage you put your cell in metal pot (if you use it for an alarm, you will hear it) and turn off WiFi before you sleep… and be in nature as much as possible. This will allow your evolution into a more aware and free being. Much Love.

   1. Leadership needs AI to control and harvest a telepathic people with a powerful consciousness. And you ionize the atmosphere so that digital mechanisms and AI can track, simulate and manage all life. I don’t think we think we need this. I also think most of we do not understand what is happening.

      1. Thank you for your response. I feel that I have not communicated my position well. I think partly because moved by the video of ‘Elon Musk’s recent comments’. We should not surrender ours selves to AI. Although It seems to be the only item on the menu from their lips… Another path is to continue to develop our natural abilities with spiritual insight and move to the Stars as humans with tools. (Not as tools.) Also, that with greater intuition and instinctual wisdom, comes greater transparency…which is why the current electronic smog is becoming so thick. Lastly, I am a student of esoteric knowledge and also a critic of many of today’s mystery schools. My first criticism is the suppression of the divine feminine–both principles, the divine masculine and the divine feminine are needed for spiritual advancement. My second criticism is the suppression of the population by controlling access to this information. Thank you for service to humanity and your promotion of a free and inspired life.

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