Okay, so first
of all, thank you
all for coming.
And I just wanna
let you know that.
This is not about
party lines and
it’s not about
political theater.
This is about
the truth.
We’re here to
learn the truth.
The American
Republic stands at
a crossroads where
secrecy has replaced
accountability.
We can all see
that, and there’s
been a lot of
narratives that have
replaced knowledge
and citizens are
treated like data
points in somebody
else’s experiment.
So my goal here
is very simple to
find out who really
governs this country,
where our freedom
has gone and how
we can take it back
peacefully, but
decisively to do
that, I’ve invited
two people are here
and they know from
the inside how the
machinery works.
General Michael
Flynn, who
understands
the intelligent
architecture of
power, and Catherine
Austin Fitts, who
has tracked the
hidden flows of
money that fuel it.
Together.
They bring the
tactical and
financial maps
of a system.
Most Americans only
sense, but never see.
So again, this is
not an interview,
it’s a reconnaissance
for the soul of
the republic to
put it lightly.
So
I
love that On that,
what I was assuming
a lot of Americans
really wanna know
who really governs
America today.
The voters, elected
officials, unelected
officials between the
financial, between
the administration
who governs us
today, who’s
really in control.
If there’s an
answer to that,
I, I’ll start
with that.
I’ll start with
that question.
Ka.
Okay.
And I, and I’ll
answer it this
way in the annals
of history, when
tyranny reigned
supreme over.
The lives and the
souls of people.
So whatever the
system was at the
moment in history,
and the people
got tired of it,
they revolted.
And we are not in a
a modern era that
is enlightened
that human beings
can’t revolt.
And and I do believe
that history is a
provides multiple
examples where human
beings get tired
of having that yoke
around their neck,
that yoke of tyranny
around their neck.
And I think the
the, this modern
era we are clearly
in, and as you
and I have spoken
about, we’re clearly
in a spiritual,
a emotional and
intellectual war.
And the masses, the
people, particularly
in the United States
of America, which I
have a really good
fingertip feel for.
Are getting tired
of this yoke of
tyranny that our
government has has
put around our necks.
And I’ll leave it
at that because I
do think that I do
I know that many
people are just at
the breaking point.
And when that
happens, some
will go some will
go silent back
into their caves,
others will not.
And and I
pray that the
leaders that we
do have are smart
enough to recognize
the the conditions
that we face.
Amen to that.
And Catherine, I know
that you’ve done deep
dives on how much
money has disappeared
from federal ledgers
and who’s funding
all this in essence.
So it’s a multiple
parties who are
funding it, but
primarily it’s run
by the central Bank.
Since they have
the, between them
and the treasury,
they have the
ability to generate
enough, as much
debt as they want,
and as much credit
to fund that debt.
But I would
say grossly
oversimplified.
There’s a movie
that says All wars
are bankers, wars.
And in my
experience, the
bankers increasingly
run everything.
And what we’re
watching, I call a
financial, because
the bankers have
decided for
many, for several
centuries, we’ve had
a balance of power
between the people’s
representatives
controlling
fiscal policy or
taxation, and the
bankers controlling
monetary policy.
And now the bankers
have decided to use
digital technology
to essentially
assert control of
the fiscal side of
the house as well as.
The monetary side of
the house and they
can do that with CBDC
or with stable coins
and asset tokens as
programmable money.
And and they’re
moving to do that.
We just saw in
Davos, Larry Fink,
who’s the acting
co chair of WEF,
very aggressively
promoting that
they intend to
move the entire
financial system.
Into this kind of
digital control grid.
So it’s becoming
very open the
descriptions of what
they intend to do.
So essentially you’re
looking to collapse
the republic and
go to a system where
the bankers control
both monetary and
fiscal policy.
And whether they
leave the legislative
representatives
in the executive
branch and place is
a theater or not.
I don’t know.
This could it’s very
fluid and it could
go in many directions
And and one of the
things to understand
is one of the reasons
this has been able
to happen, it’s been
very incremental
for decades, is the
federal government
does not run its
financial statements
and its financial
operations in
accordance with the
law and they don’t
properly disclose it.
And and we’ve had
many Americans going
along with that.
The attitude has
been, as long as
I get my check,
I’m okay with the
system as it is.
Can I jump on
that comment?
Because I think
first of all, for
the audience that’s
listening I first
came into knowing
Catherine Austin
Fitts when she did
a presentation on
the International
Monetary Fund.
So if you really
wanna know what
the heck’s going on
in in the global
economic system and
the conditions that
we are all facing,
even at the
dinner table and
the price of food.
Listen to what she
says because she’s
been warning like
John the Baptist
for a long time.
Many years is and
probably decades, but
certainly for me for
the last five years.
The essence of how
I see what Catherine
just said we always
say Follow the money.
Follow the money.
Because in war it’s
the same thing.
Physical war, it’s
the same thing.
Follow the money.
Who is benefiting?
Why are they
benefiting?
But I would add
that it’s not only
follow the money,
but it’s also listen
to the leaders who
own the money or who
control the money,
because they’re gonna
indicate this, like
she just said about
BlackRock’s leader,
CEO Fink in his
speech in Davos and
many others who have
talked about this.
It’s not just
following the money
and seeing where
it’s going or the
direction that it’s
heading, but also
we better listen to
those who own the
money, who, those who
control the money.
’cause we
don’t people.
And and I
think that’s
really important.
And it does tend
this kind of
a this kind of a
conversation tends
to go over people’s
heads because
it’s it’s just
too much for me.
It’s like saying
to somebody our
nation has $40
trillion in debt.
People don’t
understand that, so
they just let it go.
But that’s what
we’re facing and
it’s this idea
of everything
revolves around
what the price of
something is and the
political decisions.
So we’ve got to
listen to those
who own the money,
and we don’t
own the money.
So I have
to jump in.
Can I jump inside?
Yes.
I was just
gonna point to you
because we do own
a lot of the money.
If everybody
listening to this got
10 people and they
got 10 people and
they got 10 people
who do control the
money that they
put at BlackRock
and they pulled it
out, or any of the
other financial
institutions have
been doing this, or
the global financial
crisis, if they
shifted the money if
we if instead of
paying just attention
to politics, we
paid attention to
where our money was
going as well as
the institutions
who we can influence
as to where they’re
putting their money.
In fact, we could
shift enormous
proportion
of the money.
It’s like
even Florida.
DeSantis said any
institution that’s
dealing with DEI, he
pulled the money, the
state money from it.
But Catherine, if
you could expand
on that, I believe
you call it coming
clean, because it’s
even I’ve been going
through a process,
’cause I had my money
at one of the big
banks, and it’s no,
if you look at who
behind who owns that.
So I’ve been slowly
pulling it out and
putting it into
my credit union
and it’s kinda
okay no stocks
or bonds there.
However, I do get
the money market.
The high yield money
market there that, so
I get some interest,
but again, my freedom
is worth more than
what I could be
making on a stock.
Because you’re
absolutely right.
We, the people do
have the power.
So I’m curious what
Mike’s version of
this is, so when
I was trained on
Wall Street, one
of the things
we were trained
to do was never
finance our enemy.
And so I find it
very appalling that
many Americans are
in fact financing
their enemy.
But what was
the military
and intelligence
equivalent of that?
Were you trained
never to provide
free intel to
your enemies?
Is this kinda it’s,
there’s already
information warfare
and general Flynn
you are the guy
with the, that knows
this about the,
in the PSYOPs, the
information warfare
that we’re under.
Yeah.
You said we’re when
you, at the top of
the show here, you
talked about the
reconnaissance of
the soul and or the
reconnaissance of
the Soul of America.
Soul of the Republic,
the soul of
the republic.
There you go.
I love that.
I love that.
Thank
you.
Soul of the Republic.
And I always say
Catherine, that all
war is deception.
All wars deception,
and deception happens
on the tactical
battlefield where
you deceive the enemy
where you’re gonna
which side of the
battlefield you’re
gonna attack on.
But strategically
there is deception
happening for
the to the masses
that are financing
the war that we
are involved in.
So when you think
about Afghanistan
that the United
States was involved
in for the better
part of 20 years,
same with Iraq.
We spent somewhere
between I, I’ll
just low ball at 10
trillion, maybe up
to $15 trillion for
both of those wars.
And I think
the numbers are
actually higher.
Were we financing
our enemies,
we’re and on the
battlefield, the
answer is sometimes
we do, sometimes
we pay our enemies
to help us, right?
To help our
side, to help us
understand what’s
going on, their
intentions, their.
Their strengths,
their weaknesses,
things like that.
So we actually will
pay our enemies
on the on a on
a battlefield.
That’s always
been the case.
Heck, George
Washington in
the beginning of
our country he
had probably one
of the Best Buy
networks going.
Yeah.
But strategically
we are in fact
paying our enemies.
And it’s just insane
when people really
are able to see
which where the
money’s coming from
for Ukraine as an
example, or where the
money’s coming from
for the current fight
in the Middle East,
whether it’s the
revolution in Iran,
whether it’s the
new Syrian president
Ani, who’s murdering
Christians up in
the northern part
of Iraq and northern
part of Syria.
They’re just throwing
’em off the roofs now
and we’re backing it.
Where the money’s
coming from up
in Minnesota
Where the
money’s come up.
When we talk
about the National
Endowment for
Democracy as an
example, where
the, you know,
the, we, they’ve
been funded for.
I think since the
mid eighties to the
tune of about $300
million a year.
And that money goes
directly into the
coffers of these
these activists.
So we’re funding
it and people don’t
understand that.
It’s like, how
can we do this?
A regular old
American can say,
we’ll say, how
can we do this?
And last thing I’d
say to both of you,
most Americans don’t
have healthcare.
Most Americans
don’t have stocks.
Most Americans can’t
afford to fill their
gas tank up in their
car twice a month.
Most Americans can’t.
So we’ve gotta be
very conscious about
the bubble that
some of us live in,
and that’s this
past weekend.
So we were, that’s
what we were talking
about, to make sure
that we’re not just
talking to the elite
right.
Of of our world.
And and not
to the regular
folk out there
who are getting
tired of having
their soul probed.
They’re tired.
They’re
getting tired.
And it’s my
audience is more
the grassroots.
And what I’ve been
trying to tell them
on a scale, it’s,
’cause there’s all
these shiny objects,
all this stuff
going on a great
big, huge scale.
However, on a local
scale, use cash.
And I know that
sounds trite.
However, we need to
fight the digital
control grid and we
need to fight the
cbdc and all this
coming down on us
because the more
it comes down on us
from it’s kinda like
they’re sneaking in,
once that’s in place,
we have no freedoms.
So what I tell
people, what can you
do, use cash And if
a business doesn’t
take cash, don’t
do business there.
So that’s, but
free citizens
need to resist
the algorithms,
the control and
the surveillance
without resorting
to violence.
And so I’d like to
dig a little deeper
into that, how you
all see, we can,
in essence, resist
that as citizens.
There are three
parts that are really
the main pieces
of the system.
So one is
programmable digital
money, which could
be stable coins
and asset tokens
on a distributed
LE ledger or CBDC.
The second is a
digital id, but then
the third is the
local infrastructure
that does a lot of
the surveillance
and coercion.
And one of the things
that’s happening.
Is that you see more
and more people as
the infrastructure
comes in.
So the new FCC
rules to override
local control of
the telecom towers.
So they’re trying
to put up telecom
towers every
400 to 700 feet.
And now we have flock
cameras everywhere.
And in addition,
you see the data
centers going in with
the extraordinary
impact on energy,
water, land, and
other things.
And as that physical
infrastructure goes
in, that represents
the control grid,
people are finally
beginning to
realize, oh, this
is really real.
And there’re there we
are seeing tremendous
pushback against
all the different
hardware aspects of
the control grid,
whether it’s the
telecom centers the
data centers the
telecom towers,
the data centers,
and the, especially
the flock cameras.
There’s a new website
called D Flock and
everybody goes in
and reports their
flock cameras and
a lot of contracts
have been canceled.
And to me this
is an incredible
opportunity because
we’re coming into an
election in November
and an election
is when people pay
attention to these
issues and they
come out and talk.
So my house in
Tennessee is in
a very I would
say low income
per capita area.
It’s amazing when
the elections
come around,
everybody’s out there
talking about it.
And we have a lot of
people who care about
the local elections.
So the state
elections and the
local elections
are very important
and can become
very controversial
and interesting.
So to me, the
election is an
opportunity where you
get people talking
about these things.
And let me jump on
that too, if you
don’t mind, because I
think what Katherine
just put her finger
on is the essence
of ensuring that the
this Quilt of America
doesn’t fray.
And that’s
local action.
And you’ve heard
me say this a
hundred times local
action equals a
national impact.
And I think that
more and more
Americans have
realized that
they have to get
involved in their
local communities
far more than just
worrying about who
the president of
the United States
is or who their
US senator is, or
congressman, right?
Those still
matter, but.
What matters and what
we’ve seen, what I’ve
seen, and I mean I’ve
seen it in droves, is
is the arguments of
by, by a mom standing
at a podium for three
minutes yelling about
how devastating
the school system
is to her children.
And that’s what
changes, and that’s
how we change
things, right?
Is to really impact
at the local level
and to get involved.
Not just stand at a
podium and, and
shout at the
council members or
the school board,
but actually find
ways to organize
and then run.
And I’ve got many
examples primarily
of women young
women for the most
part, that have
stood their ground
in communities across
America and have
said, I am not gonna
do this anymore.
I’m gonna get
involved and run
for local office.
I hope.
I pray that we’re
not too late in
the scheme of
history, because
I do think that
we’re a bit behind
the power curve.
I think our, the
complacency in
America is moving
more towards apathy.
But I still think
that we have an
opportunity by
teaching and
educating more
and more people at
the local level.
And particularly
with things like
what Catherine does.
Her Solari Report
is amazing.
It’s really great.
It’s, and actually
it’s understandable.
It’s, that’s
that kind of
information that’s
understandable.
That last slide
that you just put up
that’s understandable
to somebody who
looks at it and goes
health, finance and
then you’re just your
economic freedom.
Do you wanna lose
these things?
No.
Okay, then here’s
what you’ve gotta,
here’s what you’ve
gotta do about it.
And I think that’s
what we have to have.
The last point on
this is that when I
look at at congress,
at the federal
level and even
in a White House.
The amount of money
that is required,
they’ve moved
past, representing
the people that
they’re supposed
to represent, and
they represent the
special interests
of who gives ’em
the most money.
And it is a pay
to play system.
And if you pay,
you’re gonna get
you’re going to get
rewarded for that.
And I think that
the debates when
people, when these
representatives come
back home during
their breaks or
during the election
season, which we’re
gonna go into a
really important
election season,
the American people
better show up to the
when they, when these
people come into
their gymnasiums and
churches or public
houses to, to address
their constituency
to get their votes.
Again, people that
are be standing
their ground and
saying, you’re not
gonna get my vote.
You know you’re
gonna, unless you do
the following things.
But if the person has
already demonstrated
that they have
taken your money
they’ve lied to
you, they’ve taken
your money, you’ve
given it to ’em.
And then they go
back to Washington,
DC and they do
just the opposite.
We’ve gotta stop that
level of insanity
because that is the
definition of it,
of insanity, right?
You do the same thing
over and over again.
You get the same
results and it’s
not something
that you want.
What is it that,
’cause I, again,
focused on Florida
and so as a state
I see it’s kinda
okay, national, I,
I have to keep my
focus on Florida and
try to get as much
done legislatively
in Florida.
But it’s not just
the state, it’s
also the counties.
It’s the sheriffs.
It’s What do you
think we could be
doing now to reassert
lawful constitutional
authority?
What can the
grassroots be doing
to assert that?
Let me just do a
quick answer and
then I’ll, and
then Catherine,
I just ’cause
of my time here.
So Ron you mentioned
Ron DeSantis
Governor DeSantis
in Florida recently.
He signed this
DEI thing.
We’re not gonna
have DEI in Florida.
It’s like Trump
signing an executive
order and then he
he goes on it from
the Oval Office.
He shows everybody
the executive order.
That doesn’t mean
that it’s actually
being executed.
I can tell you right
now that the county
that I live in is
they could care less
about Ron DeSantis
exec his executive
orders to remove DEI.
We have DEI all over
our school system.
All they knew is they
changed the name.
I can tell you in
the Department of War
even though Trump
said, and Pete, Seth
said, we’re gonna
get Eliminate, DEI,
they just changed
the name and they
just re restructured
the people down
below the Deep
State bureaucrats
just, they just
restructure and
make it they make
it look different.
But that’s
the same thing.
So
leaders have to go
check on things.
What gets checked
is what gets done.
That’s I’ve led
large organizations
in my military
career, and when I
put out an order I
didn’t I expected
everybody to follow
it, but what I had
to go do is I had
to go show up to
places unannounced
and check.
And when I if,
because if I
announced where I
was gonna go, of
course they would
put the dog and the
pony out to make
sure that everything
was nice and clean
and everything
looked good, right?
And then when you
walk back away,
they you would
say the governor or
the commander would
go, Hey, everything’s
wonderful.
But if you show up
unannounced and you
check, or if you
have teams of people,
go and check with
unannounced, believe
you you find the
door that’s been
swept under the rug.
I think that like in
light of, again, I
go back to Minnesota,
what was it Cam
Higby has done and
what Shirley has
done and different
people have done.
These undercover
citizen journalists
seem to be reporting
and showing up a lot
of things, and that
alerts, in essence
the grassroots
for the pushback.
So what do you think
if there was one
single truth that if
fully revealed would
collapse the current
power structure,
what do you think
it would be?
Place-based financial
statements that
were accurate?
Say that again.
Place-based financial
statements that
were accurate.
Can you explain
that more?
Yeah.
So I’ll tell
the story.
In, in 1996, we
started publishing
a tool called
Community Wizard.
And you could
identify what you
defined as your
neighborhood,
whether it was
your congressional
district, your
zip code, your
municipality, and
you could map out
all the money that
was supposed to
be public in the
federal government,
but wasn’t public
in your zip code.
And I had an old
partner from Wall
Street who came down
and told me a stupid,
it was a stupid idea
and would never work.
And I said where
do you live?
He said, I live
in Bronxville.
So we pulled up
everything we had
on Bronxville in
his neighborhood,
and he started
screaming in Spanish.
He was Cuban.
And I said, what are
you screaming about?
And he said, do you
have any idea how
corrupt this is?
Apparently the
first item was the
flood insurance.
He said, Bronxville
is a hill.
I’ve lived there
for 30 years.
They, it’s on a hill.
They, there are no
floods in Bronxville.
This is totally
corrupt.
Anyway, so the next
day I had a meeting
with ’em at 10 30.
I called and called.
I couldn’t get
through till 1230
and I said, Luis,
where have you been?
He said, I’ve been on
the phone since early
this morning with
the deputy mayor of
Bronxville and I’ve
gone through every
one of these numbers
one by one and all
this corruption
is gonna stop.
And I said, I
thought you thought
it was hopeless.
He said, that’s
before I had
the numbers.
Now what I will tell
you is if you look
at all the money that
we are spending like
the daycare center
money or any of
these other things,
if local business
people and local
leaders had absolute
access to all the
information and the
citizens had it too,
the opportunities to
re-engineer the money
in ways that create
lots of business
and local wealth
are tremendous.
And if you combine
that with jumbo
waivers or other ways
of making the rules
much more flexible
so that small farms
and small business
can get back in the
game, you can create
enormous amounts
of local wealth
and dramatically
reduce the deficit.
Hopefully that’s what
the CFO is doing
with the Florida.
Absolutely.
Yes.
Nobody the
CFO of Florida is
trying to do that.
Yes.
But what I will
tell you is nobody
wants to do that
because instead they
wanna suck up the
money centrally and
give it to the mega
rich and the donors.
And that’s exactly
what’s been happening
those days, hopefully
are getting to
where they’re long
gone those days.
We can’t
One of the things
and I would just
throw this out again
for your audience
and for Catherine,
because I have such
enormous respect for
her intellect on
this issue because
it’s I’ve learned
more from her and
listen to all these
other people
who are actually
the opposite of her
trying to destroy
our system and
take it over.
O one of the things
that I think that I
could use certainly,
and I think for the
American people,
because I don’t
consider myself
I’m a wave top guy.
If I want to get into
the weeds, I can get
into the weeds, but
almost like a set
of talking points
that the American
people can use when
they address their
elected leaders.
Simple talking
points.
And I go back to
that slide again
because it you had
mentioned something
there that, sorry,
I had to re ask you
what does that mean?
Because I didn’t
know what that meant.
And there’s things
that just come e
even like saying
the acronym CBDC,
central Bank.
People don’t know
what that is ’cause
they haven’t read
executive orders
or they haven’t
studied it.
We need to give
the American
people a simple
set of criteria.
I mentioned the other
day about we
were together
and I mentioned
about Lara Logue
and put out a 10
Commandments for.
For journalists,
right?
And the first
commandment
is to tell the
truth, right?
That’s the first.
And actually I did,
I wrote a paper a
year and a half ago
about the my rules
for diplomacy, right?
And my first rule
and Kerr, and I
didn’t corroborate
on it my first
diplomats is to
tell the truth.
And so I think that
we need like a 10
Commandments from
Catherine Austin
Fitts on what do
we need to give?
I’ll give, I’ll
be, I’ll give
’em out and I’ll
pass ’em out to,
okay.
So I’m gonna
ship you a whole
bunch of these.
It’s called
Coming Clean.
Okay.
And it’s basically
what I believe is
that if you can.
Clean out of your
own life and your
financial situation.
All the things
you’re doing I
liken the system to
a tapeworm and this
is the equivalent
of detoxing the
tapeworm and at least
getting it out of
your mind and out
of your pocketbook,
outta your wallet,
outta your savings.
And so we can
bring it down to
10 commandments.
I think that’s a
very good idea.
But I do think if
we can all stop
financing the system
that’s killing us,
the more we pull the
money in a way that
makes us stronger and
makes the parasite
weaker every one of
us that does it, we
help everybody, but
most of all ourselves
and our family,
I also think that
you’re talking
about talking to our
elected officials.
The thing is the
people, the elected
officials, their
pastors, they’re
preachers, their
painters, their
attorneys, their
quote unquote
normal people.
The problem I see is.
It’s hard as a former
candidate, it’s hard
to get people to
support you and to
get people to support
you, especially
financially as
a conservative.
Oddly, the liberals
have lots and lots
of money from big
organizations.
As a conservative,
it’s very difficult
and it seems like
people it holds
good people back
because of the
fear of running.
And we really, truly
need to support
the good people.
We need to
support the good
conservatives that
are out there with
their lives on
the line, fighting
for our freedoms.
And we need to make
that very in vogue.
And right now,
it doesn’t seem
to be in vogue.
I agree.
I think that
actually, I’m gonna
have to step away
here ladies, but I
think that people
in this country
want, they want
fair elections, they
want accountability
and they want.
Economic freedom or
they want a sense
that they can do,
they can control
their economic,
financial lives.
And I think that the
more we are able
to to simplify,
even though it’s
a very complex
system to simplify
the understanding
of how to do that.
They can’t, they
cannot control
fair elections.
People I say that
a little bit tongue
in cheek ’cause we
can get in there
and argue with our
elected officials.
But at this stage
and at this moment in
time the creating
the conditions for
the fairness of
our elections is
resides in one person
right now that’s
the president of
the United States,
and he’s gonna have
to make a really
difficult decision.
The second thing
is accountability.
We’ve all seen
that it resides
again at the top.
And unless that
something happens
there’s very little
that the American
people can do other
than gripe about it.
But the third
piece though is the
second economic or
financial freedom.
And I think what
what Catherine
just said is so
enlightening.
People can do that.
They actually
can do that.
And I think that
it’s it doesn’t
mean that you have
to stop getting
up early in the
morning and working
hard every day.
I’m not telling
people that don’t
suddenly think that
because you’re if
you’re lazy, you’re
gonna, you’re gonna
be financially okay.
No, you gotta work
hard to to do the
things that you,
to to have the
things that you want.
Anyway I’m
honored that I
have had this time.
And Catherine, thank
you so much for all
that you’re doing
for this country.
Thank you
so very much.
I greatly appreciate
you being here.
I just wanna affirm
again what saga
has been doing in
Florida is fantastic.
Anything you could do
to support her would
be very appreciated.
Oh, thank you.
I think it’s not so
much of, we need to
stop looking for what
they can do for us
and we need to come
together about what
we can do for each
other, and I think
that’s what all of
us are trying to
do here is show how
we, the people can
help each other out.
Even if it’s as
simple as start
using cash as much
as possible and
support good people
for candidates,
support them.
If you can only give
’em $5, give ’em $5.
That all helps.
So again, thank you
all for your, all
that you are doing.
Beautiful.
And let’s keep
fighting for the
soul of the republic,
the soul of
the republic.
That’s right.
God bless.
Thank you.
I would love to
do a, again, go a
little bit deeper
because again, my,
the Floridian future
is a grassroots.
What can we do at
the basic level?
I’m trying to grow
people up, teach
people what we can
do at a basic level.
Okay, so let’s
just go down.
Coming clean is
organized around
the six pillars of
building wealth.
So those pillars
are your free
and inspired life
navigation tools,
risk management,
living equity,
financial equity,
internal forth.
But let’s just bring
it down to 10 things.
The first is prayer.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the second is
get outdoors.
Yes.
I say that I’m
indoors right now.
The third is
start listening.
To sources of
intelligence who
are trustworthy.
The fourth is
find and support
excellent leadership.
And that’s
in all areas.
So we’ll put
all areas there.
The next is protect
yourself from the
great poisoning.
Okay?
And that’s eat
clean food.
And don’t be very
discerning of the
healthcare system and
to the extent you can
be your own doctor.
You, you’ve got
to support your
local farmers.
You’ve gotta support
the local healthcare
practitioners who
are truthful.
Yes.
Okay, so that’s
five, six is you
wanna learn how
the money works
in your community.
Seven is you
wanna bank with a
well-governed local
community banker,
credit union.
And eight is you
wanna invest in
companies and
institutions that
are building the kind
of world you wanna
live in as opposed
to financing your
demise or sending
your kids to war.
Nine, increase your
learning metabolism,
particularly
about things that
make you more
resilient locally.
And finally, you
wanna have faith
and never quit.
So you’re gonna
turtle, those
are your 10.
I have a great
story for when we
get never quit.
I can prove to you
beyond a shadow of
a doubt the spirit
that is in you.
I can prove it.
I can prove that
God put in you a
spirit that will
never, ever quit.
If that’s changed,
it’s not because
of God that
put it in you.
It’s because you
pushed it and you
know how I can
prove that to you.
Okay.
Can
you walk?
Yeah, of course I
can walk.
Okay.
When you were little,
you couldn’t, right?
And you saw
everybody around you
walking and you’re
trying to move and
trying to move and
trying to move.
Okay.
So then you get to
where you crawl.
Then you put your
hand on the table
and you get up
and you fall.
And you fall
however many times.
And it took you
months, if not
over a year to
learn how to walk.
But you never quit.
You saw what you
wanted, you saw what
you wanted to do,
and you didn’t quit.
That’s the spirit
God put in you.
People forget that,
right?
That’s true.
They do forget that.
Yeah,
they do forget that.
So one of the things
I remember when I
was in my twenties,
I started to read
biographies of people
I really admired,
and I was shocked
because if you look
at all the obstacles
they had to overcome.
It was fantastically
more than I ever
dreamed, and I
realized how hard
it is to accomplish
anything that you
know is if, and
that’s why you
have to do what
is your passion,
right?
Because if it’s so
hard and we’re now
in an environment
where it’s very
hard friction
high friction.
It’s your passion
that will drive you
and keep you doing
it because you’re
doing what your
passion is, right?
But you have to it
takes tremendous
endurance to
accomplish anything
it does.
Your passion
gets you through.
I think your passion
gets you through
the hard spots.
Right.
It’s like when I’m
looking cause I
have a lot of friends
that come and ask
for help and if
they have some brand
new idea, but they
don’t have a history
or track record or
whatever of following
through on things,
I’m kinda like no.
But those that
have a passion and
they also, with
that passion comes
this optimism.
Oh, they say this,
but I can do this.
That’s what
gets you through
the hard times.
It’s like sometimes
I have to talk to
myself too, give
myself a back
to Jesus talk.
And it’s like
what I come to
is you know what?
I must be doing
something right.
’cause Satan’s
attacking me, so I’m
on the right path.
So here I go.
And it just,
it’s that, all
right, here we go.
And, so far, I’ve
made it through
every single day.
That has been really
rough and here I am.
So the one thing
I would say to
everybody listening
to this is I always
recommend, so it,
we have a building
wealth curriculum
at Solari and in it
is a learning plan.
’cause I’m a great
believer in not
just budgeting
your money, but
budgeting your time,
right?
Because especially
in an environment
where you have this
kind of rapid change,
your time is your
most precious asset.
So do a time
budget and there’s
instructions if you
need help with it,
there’s instructions
of building wealth
on how to do it.
But just sit down
and do a time budget
and look at how
you spend your time
in in a day, in
a week, in a normal
week and a year.
And then look at
the things that are
draining your energy
or wasting your
money, or just.
Not giving you
the joy that you
deserve and look
at identify what’s
straining your time
or your resources,
and then figure out
what you can cut out.
Just cancel that
activity get out
of that club stop
watching that TV
show whatever
it is for you.
And buy yourself
two to four hours
and then take those
two to four hours.
You can go to Solari
and it’s public.
You can download the
PDF, you can print it
out and go through
these 10 items or
the items in coming
clean and say to
yourself, where can
I invest that two to
five hours a week?
That will really
improve my situation.
It’s absolutely
amazing.
When I first heard
you talk about that
was when in one
of the literacy
financial literacy
classes that
you did, and.
The time budget.
’cause you’re like,
okay, so there’s this
many hours in a day,
this many hours are
sleeping, this many
hours are eating.
And then it’s kinda
wow, you have all
this other time.
So where are you
putting that time?
And I think about
the people that it is
you go to anywhere
and their faces in
their phone and it’s
it’s sucking brain
cells out of you.
It’s sucking
productivity
out of you.
And that’s something
that you may, the
little voice in there
may be screaming
like a toddler
having a tantrum.
When you take
it away, push
through it,
right?
Because there’s
so much more you
could be and so much
more you could do.
So that was very
eye-opening.
Yeah.
I heard Ed Ellison
at a conference,
amazing speech.
He has a podcast with
Scott Galloway and he
said his generation
Z, if you look
at how they spend
their time, they
spend their time.
It was 109, it was
a, the equivalent
of 109 days of
time sleeping.
Ugh.
And then 106
days of time.
Looking at a screen
and think of that.
So think if you just
cut that in half
and took 53 days,
the equivalent of
53 days a year,
and you invested
it in becoming
great at a skill
that would generate
a higher income.
Wow.
Okay.
Yes.
And let’s say someday
you wanna run be the
CEO of a great home
building company.
That means learn
how to be a plumber.
Learn how to be
an electrician,
learn how to do
construction, learn
accounting, learn
they’re go on a
learning journey.
But take that time
and focus it on doing
the things that are
gonna take you where
you want to go.
I think the key
word there for me
anyway, is focus.
’cause I’m.
I have learned
so many
different skills.
I’ve done so many
different things
in my life and
people are like,
oh, you can listen.
I said, yes,
I can do that.
However, I
need to focus.
And again, that’s
where my world
to get, okay,
Satan’s trying to
get me over here.
I have to stay
focused.
And sometimes
that’s the hardest
part for me.
And that’s why I
have, I write a
lot because when I
write, it gets more
into my head and
it’s kinda okay,
is this in essence,
in my wheelhouse?
Is this going to help
my plan of growing
this organization?
If it’s not, I
have to say no.
So that’s another,
that’s, yeah that
time budget was,
that really hit me.
It
was interesting
because Ricardo Oskin
runs our building
wealth curriculum.
And so after we
started working on
the time budget, and
I showed him, I got
him and his wife to
do a time budget.
And that week I was
talking about what
we call shadow work,
which is the lack
of reliability in
other organizations
that cause you to
lose time or money.
Right.
And in that week
they went out to eat.
So we try and
encourage everybody
to protect themselves
against the great
poisoning and
be very careful.
But they made
an exception.
Went out to eat, they
got food poisoning.
And his wife lost
two and a half
days of work.
He lost a day of
work, that’s three
and a half days.
And then they had
somebody delivering
kitchen equipment
and they messed
up and brought
the wrong thing.
And somebody
stayed home from
work and then it
was the wrong thing.
And again, they had
to stay home from
work and you counted
that up and that was
basically four days.
So between the two
of them, they have
14 days in a week.
Right.
And they had
lost four days
just from going
to a restaurant.
That was not it.
It’s too it’s
taking a risk.
They don’t have
the quality that if
you’re gonna protect
yourself against
great poisoning
that there you go.
That’s
amazing.
But when he sat down
and looked at how
much we’re all just
trying to make it
work and make it go
and going through
a life, but when
he sat down and he
looked at the cost of
four days of those.
Of dealing with
of buying kitchen
equipment for
price instead of
reliability or it
turned out not
to be cheaper.
And the cost of going
to a restaurant that
you knew you really
shouldn’t go to.
Yeah, and I think
that’s, I think you
hit so many nails on
the head there, but
I have a lot of talk
with several friends
of mine because my,
in my world, I, and
this is as a kid,
we’re taught buy
really good shoes.
’cause if you buy
really good shoes,
they last longer.
And it was kinda
like, only rich
people can buy
disposable stuff
because otherwise
you’re buying three
or four pair of shoes
to get around when
you could buy one
really good pair.
And to this day, I
still adhere to that.
So sometimes my
friend, oh, where
did you get this?
And I said I
got it here.
And they’re like, oh,
it’s kinda expensive.
And I was like,
I won’t have
to replace it.
Exactly.
So yes, it
is expensive.
Yes.
Things are not made
like they used to.
However, the price
is worth it because
then you can
get it, move on.
You don’t have
to keep getting
more and more
or different.
But, ugh.
Yeah.
And the food.
That’s another one.
Food is a hard one.
So going on the
learning journey
to meet all your
local farmers, find
your local farmer
market, find the I
always tell people,
if you wanna find
the people who love
freedom in a place,
go find the foodies.
Go find the raw
milk people.
Yeah,
true.
There’s a magazine,
there’s a magazine
called Edible
Communities.
It’s a franchise
operation.
I thought I knew all
the farmers and food
sources in my area.
And then I got the
Edible Communities
magazine for Memphis.
And I was just
stunned because
there were so
many other great
resources there.
Western Price
has chapters all
over the country.
So another thing
is to find the
Western Price guys.
’cause they can
educate you.
Or if you have an
Edible Communities
magazine that
can work.
If you just spend a
lot of time at the
farmer’s markets,
pretty much you’ll
network everybody.
But and they often
will plug you into
the good healthcare
practitioners,
right?
Because the number
one financial
problem that every
family if you just
look statistically
across the board, the
number one financial
problem in America
is everybody’s
been poisoned and
it’s running up
their, it’s causing
them to lose time.
They’re getting
sick they’re not
productive or they’re
not as productive
as they could be,
but they’re also
wasting a ton of
money on healthcare.
Much better.
They’re also wasting
a ton of money
on supplements.
Although I’m
guilty of that.
Don’t get me wrong.
There’s, there are
valid supplements,
but even with, it’s
a multi-billion
dollar business,
so you’re gonna be
sold, it’s like this
one friend of mine.
She goes through one
thing after another.
And there are
differences in
supplements.
The same as there
are differences
in anything else.
However, I did
a cleanse where
I stopped all
my supplements
except and this
is interesting.
I always had, I had
rotator cuff surgery,
so I’ve always been,
I want my body to
heal itself and
I’ll do whatever
I can to get that.
So for two months.
Before my surgery
and I, there was no
way that the body
could heal ’cause it
was a complete tear.
But I knew I had to
eat a lot of extra
protein and a lot
of the essential
amino acids.
So I quit all my
other supplements
and all I did was
the essential aminos.
And when I say I
upped my protein,
I found a place
where I could get
like the real milk,
raw milk, whatever
you wanna call it,
real milk and eggs.
And I would crack
two eggs in my
blender, put some
milk in there.
I enormous amounts
of protein.
And they say that
this is one of
the most painful
surgeries ever.
After the surgery,
I had no pain.
None, even the
doctor, he’s
done tens of
thousands of these.
He said he is
only had one other
patient like that.
The other thing I was
doing was lymphatic
flush exercises.
All of this you
can do at home.
I didn’t go somewhere
to get it done.
All of this I did
at home, so I spent.
More except I’ve had
to buy less groceries
’cause I bought the
correct groceries.
And I did the
exercises.
I had zero
pain afterward.
I have healed
incredibly.
And the thing is,
the body is made
to heal itself.
We are created
to heal itself.
But let’s go back,
let’s look at
your time budget.
You took the
time to research
and investigate
and understand
how to care for
your own health,
correct?
And then you spent
the money to do
what you had to do.
And if you will, this
is why your learning
plan is so important
and your time budget
is so important.
You wanna focus on
them on things that.
Dramatically improve
your health, your
strength, your
intelligence, and do
all those things in a
way that then serves
your management
of your finances
and economics.
And if you will do
that if you will
strip out of your
life if you look at
the things we do that
waste time and money,
ugh,
in most Americans
it’s frightening.
It’s absolutely
frightening.
Very but if
we will cut out
those things and
re-engineer the money
to really starting
to progress up the
the health ladder,
it can make an
enormous difference
to your finances.
That’s so true and
thankfully the DPC,
which is Direct
Primary care also
part of the free
market medical
is growing now.
So friends of mine,
both of them were
nurse practitioner,
her and her
husband, both nurse
practitioners worked
for a big company and
I’d been talking to
them and she’s very
much into the whole
health freedom.
That’s where I
met her was I was
talking at a health
freedom rally.
They just last year,
and they were so
afraid to do this,
opened up a direct
primary care where
you pay like $75
a month and you
get the unlimited.
And it’s, and they
were so afraid and
now they’re like,
oh my goodness
we have to stop
taking people.
We have too many now
and it’s growing.
And I was
like, exactly.
Because people want
that because our
healthcare now,
it’s not healthcare.
It’s not healthcare.
Jennifer Walters,
who runs our our
she does the health
series on cli.
She’s so funny.
She said after she
had a son who was
vaccine injured and
she said, one of the
things I discovered
is everything that
would heal him, I
had to pay cash for.
And so I had to
say, you know
something, I’m
take the insurance
and stuff it,
yeah.
I am just paying
cash for everything
because the people
who do that can
only take cash.
That is so true.
That is so true.
It’s true.
That is so true.
With that, it’s
because I’m part of a
health sharing, which
are these Christian
sharing plans.
It’s not insurance,
it’s health sharing.
So for that, yeah,
so I, I used to be in
Samaritan, so I was
in, that’s the
one I’m in,
it’s Samaritan.
Oh, are
you?
Yeah.
I
love Samaritan.
It
was great.
Great.
I do too.
I do too.
Yeah.
So there, there
are ways to
get around it.
I think most
people, I don’t
know if they’ve
gotten lazy or they
consider it’s, again
they’re sacrificing
their freedom for
convenience, I guess
is how I put it.
Here’s the thing.
You, you’ve been
taught to do
something and
it’s it’s a habit.
It’s a pattern.
You, it’s very
difficult to break
the pattern unless
you have a paradigm
shift in outlook.
That’s true.
So think of it this
way think of our,
how we manage our
lives as a system,
like a computer.
We have an operating
system and then we
have 50 different
databases.
We have a database
for we have 10
databases for
finance one’s called
banking and we have
10 databases for
health and various
different things.
So we have this
and somebody comes
you or I come to
you and say, look,
you have to change
this database.
You’ve got the
wrong database.
If you wanna be
financially free,
you gotta change.
You gotta start
doing as much
cash as possible.
And you look at it
and you say, wait
a minute, I can’t
use that database
with my current
operating system.
It means I have to
change my operating
system, which means
I have to change
50 other databases.
And that’s too hard.
But what is happening
in the world now is.
Things have become so
shocking and extreme.
People are saying,
you know something,
I’m gonna change my
operating system,
right?
Because I gotta
change all these
different databases.
And so that’s when
the shift comes
and we’re going
into that shift.
And that’s why
this year is gonna
be a period of
all these changes
that everybody
kept waiting for,
they’re really gonna
start happening.
So it’s happening.
Do you think it’s
along the same
lines as the story
about the frog and
the boiling water?
No.
That we’ve been
in that water?
No.
No.
Because that dynamic
has been going on,
right.
But the thing that
has been going on
is you have military
grade neuro warfare
working on the frog.
Oh, that’s true too.
And that makes
it a very
different formula.
And the problem
is you can’t.
You can’t start to
protect yourself
against the
technology until
you realize that it
really exists and
you understand it
and you get over
the shock and the
grief of realizing
I’ve allowed myself
to be brainwashed.
So it’s a pretty
shocking moment.
And it’s a
pretty it took
me about a year to
go through that.
It is, it’s and
also with all the
five GI remember
people talking way
back when about, oh
my goodness, 5G and
now six G. And the
thing is, we had
great communication
with 4G.
So all this is not
about communication.
All this is about,
and then also I’ve
been learning this
past year focusing on
the radio frequencies
and the electric
magnetic fields
and the effects.
’cause the clinic
that I worked at in
Minnesota, there’s
a lot of highly
sensitive people.
But the thing
is we are an
electrical current.
Right.
Our bodies, that’s
why they do EEGs.
That’s why we are an
electrical current.
We’re electrical.
And that’s part of
what the technology
is about, is
controlling our
electromagnetic
field and trying
to influence and
manipulate it.
So I’m gonna tell
one story that drives
one of my partners
crazy ’cause I keep
bringing it up.
So I worked on Wall
Street, I loved it.
I was an investment
banker, so I would
package deals
and then they
would have to be
marketed through the
syndicate desk and
the trading floor.
And I loved going
down and spending
time with the
syndicate guys.
And it was my
job to lead the
pricing of the deal.
’cause it was
primary market stuff.
And and something,
we had landlines and
number two pencils.
That’s what we had.
We didn’t have
any software.
We didn’t have
emails, we didn’t
have cell phones.
We didn’t have
any of that stuff.
And you know
something,
you got it
done.
It worked better.
Okay.
It worked better.
Yeah.
‘ cause we didn’t
have to spend all
of our time putting
in lots of data so
that the intelligence
agencies and
everyone else could
surveil everything
we’re doing.
Take the data,
use it for all
sorts of stuff.
It, it worked
much better.
It was unbelievable.
And but we
had a rule.
You either did
what you said, you
kept your word, you
said yes, no, nine
of five eights.
You kept your
word and you did
what you said, or
you communicated
instantly.
And if you didn’t,
you just got fired,
and so over time,
the only people
who stayed were
the ones who were
really good and
could get anything
done with number
two, pencils and
number two, pencils
and landlines.
I’ll never forget
going to the
wonderful museum in
Sarasota, Florida.
Of the Ringling
Brothers Circus.
Oh, the
Ringling Museum.
Oh, it’s fabulous.
If you go to the
Ringling Museum and
they have that, that,
what do they call it?
It’s the circus
in little toys.
Right.
What do they call it?
It’s, but it’s
like a model.
It’s like the
whole big, huge,
it’s everything.
It’s the trains,
it’s the trucks,
it’s the, I know what
you’re talking about.
That big
miniature and
it’s people,
everything.
And they used to
pack that up, put it
on transportation,
trains and trucks,
move it hundreds
of miles, unpack
it, do it again.
And they did it
all with number
two pencils.
They didn’t even
have landlines.
Okay.
Right.
All worked
like charm.
That was when
people had brains
and they had,
it’s kinda okay.
And they were all
part of the community
and on the same
wavelength as it
were all those days.
That was life.
That was life before
surveillance systems.
That’s true.
Right.
That’s
true.
We could just do
the work instead
of feeding the
surveillance
system while we’re
doing the work.
No.
Anyway, so I, it
things can I just
remind everybody?
Things can work,
things can work,
and that’s again,
I so appreciate that
about you because
it’s very hopeful.
We are in a very
hopeful world.
I’m reading a book
now called Madame
Secretary about
Francis Perkins,
who was the first
woman appointed
secretary under FDR.
And the things that
they were going
through back then,
just fresh outta the
depression and coming
up with the New Deal
and social security
and all the labor
stuff, and all the
attacks that they had
against them then.
And it’s like every
era has something.
There’s something
huge for every era.
Spanish American
War people had to
think it was the
end of the world.
World Wars ii,
end of the world
Hiroshima, end of
the world, all this.
And it’s what?
A day to the Lord
is a thousand years
to you and me.
So it may
happen tomorrow.
Would you mean a
thousand years?
So I went back, so
I was an investment
advisor for 10
years and I went
back to 1900.
And I said, okay,
if knowing what
I know now, if I
was in 1900, how
would I invest?
What kind of
portfolio strategy
would I lose use
to get through
the 20th century?
And I realized, wow,
if you look at what
they managed through,
and interestingly
enough the rules if
you live with very
old wealth and you
follow the rules,
they follow there’s
a technology, they
know how to do it,
and it really works.
You can make your.
You but you have
to rock and roll.
On the first meeting
that the CEL team had
this year, somebody
said, okay we know
what the tagline
was last year.
What’s our word
for the year?
Or what’s our
tagline for 2026?
I said, rock and
roll, because
you’re gonna have
wild opportunities,
but wild risks
and and it’s like
the oil business.
I used to have a lot
of clients in the
oil business when I
was in Wall Street,
and they used to just
say and you’d sit
down with a guy who’s
a multimillionaire,
billionaire, and he’s
totally humble as
humble as you can be.
And you ask him
how he does it,
and he says, you
know something,
when you’re in this
business, one day
you’re a billionaire.
The next day
you’re broke.
The next day you’re
a billionaire.
And you learn to
start realizing
that’s not your life.
Your money’s
not your life.
It’s just
something that’s
around sometimes.
Yeah, that’s true.
Well, Catherine,
this has been great.
I don’t know
how we’re gonna
break this up.
I think we oughta
just do it as
a wonderful
conversation.
Yeah.
We just do it as
a conversation.
And again, I just
wanna tell everybody
in Florida is
listening to this.
Please get behind.
I said what was the
one where I said,
find your, lo your
leaders and help ’em.
Yes.
You help this
person because she
knows what to do.
You’re doing great
work and I can’t
tell you how much I
appreciate being in
cahoots with you.
Thank you.
And I remember I
was tremendously
busy when you first
called me, but you
were like a tiger.
You were not gonna
stop calling.
I was respectful
though.
No, you were
very respectful.
But I said, okay,
this woman knows
how to turtle.
She’s one of us.
I definitely turtle
forth and again I,
from the bottom of
my heart, greatly
appreciate you.
Getting back to me
and the relationship
that we’ve built,
and I so admire you
and your intellect,
and I don’t think
there’s anybody
more qualified or
more credentialed.
And thank you so
much for spreading
the word to the
commoners to not
that you’re not, but
the normal people to
help and breaking it
down because again
the least lease you
can do is use cash.
Yes, if everybody
will just use cash
as much as possible.
Tell everybody,
tell your friends,
tell your family
get pick out 10
people and get them
using cash and tell
them to do the same.
Yeah, this can
absolutely go.
Okay.
Yes, Catherine,
thank you so much.
Thank you.
Have a great day.
Thanks, you too.
Bye-Bye.
