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Artificial intelligence on Wikipedia
The Boundaries of Natural Science by Rudolf Steiner
The Real Reason to be Afraid of Artificial Intelligence – Peter Haas
Artificial Intelligence: it will kill us – Jay Tuck
“The estimated bit processing rate of the human brain is approximately 10^16 bit flips per second…. a hand held artilect could flip at 10^40 bits per second. An asteroid sized artilect could flip at 10^52 bits a second. Thus the raw bit processing rate of the artilect could be a trillion trillion trillion (10^36) times greater than the human brain. If the artilect can be made intelligent, using neuroscience principles, it could be made to be truly godlike, massively intelligent and immortal” ~Dr. Hugo de Garis
By Catherine Austin Fitts
This week on The Solari Report, Harry Blazer speaks to Dr. Hugo de Garis about his book, The Artilect War: Cosmists vs. Terrans – A Bitter Controversy Concerning Whether Humanity Should Build Massively Intelligent Godlike Machines, and about the dangers of artificial intelligence or AI.
Dr. de Garis is Australian. He studied theoretical physics and then began developing artificial intelligence. According to Wikipedia, in 1992 he received his PhD from Université Libre de Bruxelles, Belgium. He worked as a researcher at ATR (Advanced Telecommunications Research institute international, 国際電気通信基礎技術研究所), Japan from 1994–2000, a researcher at Starlab, Brussels from 2000–2001, and associate professor of computer science at Utah State University from 2001–2006. Until his retirement in late 2010 he was a professor at Xiamen University [Fujian, China], where he taught theoretical physics and computer science, and ran the Artificial Brain Lab. He is now in the process now of moving back to his native Australia.
Dr. de Garis has serious reservations about the risks associated with artificial intelligence. For the first part of this Solari Report, he and Harry discuss the nature of artificial intelligence and the associated risks. In the process, Harry becomes intrigued with integrating the discussion with other developments in global governance and geopolitics and outlines some of this thoughts on the application of AI to further centralize political and economic control. I have asked our team to make a special video for posting on Thursday of that 20-minute plus section in addition to our regular audio. We will also post Harry’s recommended subscriber links.
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In Let’s Go to the Movies, I will review one of my all-time favorites, the TV series Battlestar Galactica. The human race faces extinction from the attack on the Twelve Colonies of the cybernetic Cylons. A battlestar and a small fleet of surviving humans escape and set out to find the planet Earth while continuing to fight off their Cylon attackers.
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Thank God for Harry! I was feeling pretty frustrated by Dr. Garis. His intelligence is not in question…his narrow scope is. I think he was surprised by Harry’s point of view and passion.
I think many experts live in a narrow scope – great effort is made to prevent integration. The thought of faster processing in a narrow scope is frightening. If anything it would make the system stupider and less diverse.
Thank God for Harry! I was feeling pretty frustrated by Dr. Garis. His intelligence is not in question…his narrow scope is. I think he was surprised by Harry’s point of view and passion.
I think many experts live in a narrow scope – great effort is made to prevent integration. The thought of faster processing in a narrow scope is frightening. If anything it would make the system stupider and less diverse.
Hi Catherine and Harry, Great interview and response by Harry…the problem seems to be that AI has no heart and no sense of cherishing our connection with the natural world or each other. Wishing you both an abundance of rainbows!
Hi Catherine and Harry, Great interview and response by Harry…the problem seems to be that AI has no heart and no sense of cherishing our connection with the natural world or each other. Wishing you both an abundance of rainbows!
This interview pretty much outlines the frightening crossroads we’re at, it’s a war of cosmologies, of being human or not. I love how Harry managed to ground the conversation and even got the dear Dr. to say” Do you sometimes look at the stars at night?”
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This interview pretty much outlines the frightening crossroads we’re at, it’s a war of cosmologies, of being human or not. I love how Harry managed to ground the conversation and even got the dear Dr. to say” Do you sometimes look at the stars at night?”
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Dear Harry,
Thank for bringing the human dimension into the conversation. The actual word that would have cleared everything up is ‘soul’. A dirty word for scientists of the numeric persuasion.
The issue at-bat is that this is a Newtonian scientist. The world and humans are only machines. Consciousness is an outcome, a result of the mechanics of the brain. Yet the majority of mathematical and scientific discoveries arrived in the minds of scientists through other means of consciousness that cannot be measured by the limited intellect of such scientists. For example, dreams, intuitions, and synchronicities. When the world is a physical nail you only use a hammer but if the world is a relationship existing on many levels of experience you need to listen.
These are aspects of the human experience that you championed. Thank you for educating this gentleman. I hear so much of this AI hype and it always gets down to ‘we can take over the world with our machines” but only on paper. Only through calculations NOT through creativity. Arrogance and hubris. Can this gentleman build a house? I highly doubt nor could he solve the issues related to building such a house. Yet myself and other do this task daily even with ‘low’ IQ’s.
You may want to look at an incredible book by J.Gary Sparks AT THE HEART OF MATTER: Synchronicity and Jung’s Spiritual Testament – J. Gary Sparks …. Carl Jung and Nobel prize-winning physicist Wolfgang Pauli work on the theory of Synchronicity. This is where we truely are in the struggle for the new world. The unconscious and the conscious are one and thus matter is brought into being through consciousness BUT it requires a transcendent function. This is the spiritual aspect that the Newtonian world will not touch. Maybe cause it requires a different sort of intellectual and spiritual quotient.
Gotta go. I am late for building a home for someone.
Cheers
Doug
Doug,
While the brain is clearly a mechanism, there is reason to believe the mind is non-local. AI based on brain will have a mind somewhat different than real intelligence. The fact that we can fail is fundamentally superior to error-free computing, from a creativity standpoint. In fact, I fancy that we actually might exist to explore that which cannot be reduced to the cold facts of probability. Hunches have no explanation in mechanisms. Therefore we have to create the temporal world to explore them.
Cheers.
Very important point –
Thanks!
Doug:
Make sure to watch Wave Genome that posts tonight. Dives right into the middle of this,
Catherine
Will do Catherine. Will you ever have a luncheon or dinner on the west coast of Canada? Even the north western US states? Dying to meet and talk with you and Joesph. Cheers
Doug
OK, sounds like I need to get to Vancouver. Alas, I can not persuade Joseph to fly.
Yes Please… I am aware of Joseph’s desire for earth based travel… I can always travel some where to meet you both.
Cheers
Doug