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1. Richard

   ‘aliens living among us.’ I have had my own encounters with supernatural forces as I have mentioned in my book Crop Circles and Climate Change. It was quite the phenomenal experience let me tell you so I am quite familiar with the entire topic. Some have even looked to me as a sort of expert on the subject. I believe I even have an understanding of alien abductions. But what concerns me though is this idea of people believing that they are something other than what Jesus taught and O if only Forrestral had paid attention to His teachings then the outcome of his life would have looked much different than what it has! It actually came as quite a surprise to me to hear and learn of his story because my opinion/belief has always been that the US was and is a deeply religious and christian nation at least during his years which makes everyone knowledgable about such matters? How shortsighted and ill conceived that though was/is. It brings too mind those words of God’s from the book of Hosea
   “My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge.” {4:6}
   Anyway I’ll just leave you and everyone else here with these words of Jesus- DO NOT BE DECEIVED.

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

2. @Jerry: I appreciate your devotion to your faith and to the crop circles as works of “divinity”/space aliens?? As you must be aware Zacharias Sitchen has many volumes that detail the origins of “civilized” man’s epoch here….I was merely wondering if the NASA flight to the Moon was a pre-emptive strike to prevent colonists from having a “pristine” environment to rely on. Secondly, that the Chinese are imminently sending colonists to the Moon;and the USA is sending that bomb! As for Forrestal, yes, what a tragic life…If you read Catherine’s earlier blogs/articles, she points out that the NSA Act of 1947 and the CIA Act of 1949 are precursors to numerous financial machinations ( to fund the many “black ops” no doubt) and as she remarked on a late night radio program not long ago: “How do you suppose they fund Area 51?”….And yes Operation Bluebook is a detailed account of mid-20th Century UFO sightings. I lived on Maui years ago and a friend OMAR maintained a book store in Wailuku which focussed on such material…The radio report I mentioned is/was real…and then surpressed…I truly believe we don’t need to search into the Galaxy for extra-terrestials…they most likely live amongst us…Frankly I started writing a short story about the invasion of Iraq II( Iraqi Freedom) where I surmise that the real purpose of the invasion was a cover to hide a covert ops landing to investigate a cavernous region near Acadia where an unknown life form was detected by satellite infrared photography( there now that I have given my premise away,HA!)…( and no I didn’t mean Saddam Hussein’s cubbyhole )…So we live in interesting times…Most contrarians see the handy work of the current administration as ill conceived and wrong headed…the insiders protecting the insiders…Maintaining the status is all they know…As for Climate Change..yes..my concern relates to a report I read that detailed that if the Arctic ice sheet should melt and the Arctic tundra were to be thoroughly exposed the radiant solar rays would unleash 10X the amount of CO2 and methane stored in the tundra than all the amount that is being spoken of in the press as “mankind’s handywork”…So if per chance the release of those gases were to occur..then we are in deep do-do!!!as always, Richard(theoldwiseman)

3. Richard actually I think you’ll find this a little more entertaining-the Creator answered a prayer from a satellite!!! LOL I just love God’s sense of humor that He injects into some of what is going on. From my book pg. 194

   As usual God looks to inform. The warnings are there and don’t you just love the sense of humor that God interjects into some of what is going on. Like for example what occurred in a wheat field next to a giant radio telescope in England back in 2004 as described by this Wired magazine article:

   “Glickman’s “hard information” refers to a moment at the end of last summer’s growing season when the crop circles turned away from the abstract. On August 14, an enigmatic human face, expertly executed in halftones, turned up next to a huge radio transmitter in Chilbotin, England. A few days later, a glyph appeared that many croppies believe to be an alien response to a SETI radio transmission sent into space almost 30 years ago. Formed out of expertly twisted wheat, the pattern shows a strand of DNA made with silicon instead of phosphorous, a transmission device of unknown design, an alternate solar system, and an extraterrestrial with a wide head.
   One thing is for sure: The formation proves beyond a doubt that the life form responsible for it has a super-evolved sense of humor. In the words of Seth Shostak, senior astronomer of the SETI Institute, it’s good fun and a nice example of grain graffiti -but not worth taking seriously. “If aliens wanted to communicate with us, why would they use such a low bandwidth method?” he asks. Why not just leave an Encyclopedia Galactica on our doorstep? He also noted that SETI’s original signal was aimed at the star cluster M13, which means it, will not reach its target for 24,972 more years. The Institute he says “has no interest in investigating the phenomenon further.”
   Go here for the picture http://www.mightycompanions.org/cropcircles/wired/wheatgraffiti.html

   Yep, God always looks to answer prayer even the electronic type! WOW! What a truly fascinating God we serve and to think that this is something, ‘not worth taking seriously?’ You have got to be kidding?! What is wrong with people? To be faced with the very thing that mankind has been searching for should cause us all to jump up and down for joy not just glumly cast it aside as something extraneous. What has ignorance of the bible and religion really become such now that people have no way of recognizing the work of Almighty God when they see it? Or have people really become so dull in mind where the issue of sin and religion is concerned that they have just canceled it from their minds altogether?

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

4. Hi Bert

   I fine this to be one of the most insightful and astonishing of all quotes and one in which speaks volumes does it not about the current housing bubble and what not?

   ‘The world lives in a fool’s paradise based upon fictitious wealth, rash promises, and mad
   illusions,’ he said. ‘We must beware of booms based upon false prosperity which has its roots in inflated credits and prices.’* German Jewish Central Banker Paul Warburg circa 1920

   100 years on and we are still learning nothing and if you wish the complete citation here it is in its entirety…

   “In economics, Paul’s prophetic powers were as unerring as Aby’s in the
   cultural sphere, and he initiated a new phase as an embattled Cassandra.
   Whether from his Jewish background, personal sensitivity, or outsider status
   as an immigrant, he had a coldly detached vision of things. His Washington
   defeat had only sharpened his loathing for political folly and ineptitude.
   For the past five years, he thought, the world had consumed more than it
   produced, creating inflationary pressures. Now the governments were printing
   money instead of submitting to needed austerity. *’The world lives in a
   fool’s paradise based upon fictitious wealth, rash promises, and mad
   illusions,’ he said. ‘We must beware of booms based upon false prosperity
   which has its roots in inflated credits and prices.’*

   Indeed global inflation crested in 1920, followed by a severe slump-the
   first confirmation of Paul’s grim prophecies.”
   There was a moralistic dimension to his predictions. Paul saw wartime
   sacrifice giving way to intoxicated self-indulgence-a theme he would sound
   up to the 1929 crash. He criticized America’s selfish retreat from global
   responsibility and the materialistic frivolity of the Jazz Age. He thought
   America morally obligated to assist European recovery by reducing German
   reparations and war debts owed to America by its Allies. Paul took on the
   stoic, unbending tone of a prophet who knew the world was weak, selfish, and
   deaf to his warnings.” {Chernow pg. 223-224 The Warburgs}

   Is this double speak? moreover consider this the Warburgs at least Paul anyway was a deeply religious man having been trained in Talmudic studies as a child? Moreover Catch 22 I think is often to be found in the world of money and banking. Most never started out to be villians and so forth but rather ended up facing two very difficult choices which often ends up in either your damned if you do and your damned if you don’t. Sound familiar doesn’t it?

   As for the oil crisis or so called oil crisis if there isn’t one now there shortly will be one given the enormous consumption that is or will be going on especially once China and India get really going with their growth. Look I believe the earth doesn’t have an infinite supply of resources and we are a voracious people at consuming everything.

   Yes Bert I am the author of that Book and you know instead of all of the doom and gloom consider what happened over the city of Singapore back in the early eighties!

   “Last year, the business leaders of Singapore got a vision from the Holy Spirit. They were to sponsor a national crusade to reach all of Singapore. They rented the local soccer stadium, which seats 70,000 people. One business leader alone, Mr. Wy Wy Wong, paid for the total advertising in every newspaper in the country. The committee was composed of pastors, professional people and businessmen. These men and women had one thing in common. They had a burning desire for revival in Singapore, which had a small Christian population.

   Night after night, for five straight nights, the rain came in torrents. But by six o’clock every evening, the sky would clear and we were able to have large crowds gather to hear the gospel.

   The total count of people that came forward to accept Christ amazed me. I repeated nightly. ‘Please only those who want to accept Christ as their personal Savior for the first time in your life, only you come forward.’ Yet, we counted more than 50,000 people making decisions for Christ.” {pg. 130 Cho}

   Moreover if you wish to read some even more fantastic encounters with the Creator read my excerpts over at http://www.cropcirclesandclimatechange.com/excerpts

   Cheers

   Jerry Lesac

   We are living in some truly fantastic if not fateful days!

   Richard. Richard lol and have you read about Forrestal…

   “The U.S. Government is being taken over by the space people!”
   “This rumor spread throughout the country in 1967, an updated version of the old devil theory. Actually it got its start in 1949 when James V. Forrestal, the brilliant secretary of defense in the Truman cabinet, went bananas and raced through the corridors of the Pentagon screaming, “We’re being invaded and we can’t stop them!” He was convinced that his phones were being tapped and some enormous conspiracy was underway. Soon after he was placed in a hospital he leaped out a window to his death. While the press blamed his paranoia on the tensions of the cold war, the UFO enthusiasts knew better. Air force Intelligence had compiled a Top Secret Estimate of the Situation following their UFO investigations in 1947-48. Their conclusion, according to the late Capt. Edward Ruppelt, was that flying saucers were extraterrestrial. Forrestal, so the story went, was one of the few to read that report before Air Force Chief of Staff Hoyt Vandenburg ordered all copies destroyed and it blew his mind.
   Two other top military men, Gen. George C. Marshall and Gen. Douglas MacArthur were obsessed with the flying saucer phenomenon. MacArthur made several public statements declaring the next war would be fought against ‘evil beings from outer space.’ A fabled “think thank,” the Rand Corporation, was assigned to feed UFO data into a computer and fight an imaginary war with those evil beings. Since we wouldn’t know where they are from, what there technology was, or how to attack their bases, the computer advised us to surrender.” {pg. 216-217 Keel}

5. @Bert and @ Jerry: Wow, divine intervention!!! Phew!! Now that’s worth talking about!! I recall the Cecil B. de Mill epochs( ie: The Ten Commandments ) and the Indiana Jones sagas…where divine intervention saved the day…as an informal student of the five books of Moses( Pentatuch ), the Teachings/writings of Jesus( New Testament ), and the Koranic texts of Mohammed as well, I find great dependence on faith and the “hand of g-d” to solve our problems throughout biblical history…I studied as a young man the Tao Te Ching, where it is said that when Lao Tsu approached the gate to depart the ancient middle kingdom and was commanded to write the Tao before exiting oriental civilization…Is the new NASA probe ( and detonation ) headed to the moon an attempt to contaminate the surface before the Chinese colonizers land there in the next year or two??? Surely there are other methods to detect H2O on the lunar landscape! Why a bomb?? and will it be a “dirty bomb” at that??? With the Moon being our nearest yet almost uncontaminated landscape will that explosion remove it from becoming our last “pristine” future home ??? A pre-emptive strike preventing colonizers to start fresh on the lunar surface…without Earth’s controllers to contend with…Maybe I’m going off into realms of sci-fi I don’t know!! ( I remember that when the first module to orbit the moon came back into radio frequency after passing the dark side the first words were: “There are thousands of them” ). But as a youth I always conjured the notion that certain elites ( Nelson Rockefeller for instance) were pocket visionaries and might have set aside Palau and Micronesia as a safe haven( rather than their becoming the current homeland for Gitmo refugees ) for “utopians” much like I’m suggesting the Moon may become in future years. Why was Rockefeller assassinated anyway?? Anyway thanx Bert for recognizing my prior entry into this very well documented conversation, as always, Richard(theoldwiseman)

6. Jerry,

   I’m going to disagree with you on a couple things. First, the “peak-oil crisis” is manufactured, and is in alignment with and part of the manufactured “Humanity vs. The World” dialectic. Second, Keynes, Warburg, Wilson et. al. were plotters in post-WWI Europe…. i don’t see their writings as benevolent…..I think it is important to see the double-speak in their statements.

   Also, are you the author of…
   http://books.google.com/books?id=F_e9F7KMHAsC&dq

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