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“All knowledge attains its ethical value and its human significance only by the human sense in which it is employed. Only a good man can be a great physician.”
~Hermann Nothnagel
By Catherine Austin Fitts
Karel van Wolfren is an author, journalist, professor, publisher and one of the most respected voices in the Netherlands on geopolitics. In March, I visited Karel for a wide ranging discussion on his views about events in the Ukraine and how they relate to the push for central control globally. We so enjoyed our discussion, I returned on April 15 to continue our discussion….and debate!
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Catherine,
I really enjoyed part I and part II of these long discussions and I’m certainly looking forward to part III.
I do have the advantage of watching both of your interviews with Karel a few months after their intitial release, thus the privilege of watching speeches by Putin since Part I & Part II. Recently as of this week he made a short speech calling out the West for their hypocrisy, wealth by force and thefy and his ambitions for Russian national sovereignty.
Towards the end of the discussion Karel is taking the position the Putin is executing the Ukraine operation as a reaction to NATO expansion into Ukraine. The result is disruptions of supply chains, food production, sanctions, currencies, which is interfering with the Agenda of the Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO crowd to implement a centralized technocratic global gov’t.
Your position seems to be that Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO is intentionally moving into Ukraine, with the goal to provoke Russia into making a move to enable the collapse of supply chains, food production, sanctions, currencies. Thus Putin, much like the Magic Virus can be used as a scapegoat to explain to the populace why they are experiencing the destruction of small businesses, savings and inflation. (problem, reaction, solution). Population posts Ukraine flags in their lawns, complains about fuel costs, blames Putin. Mr Global continues unabated.
Putin is avid practitioner of Judo, and one fundamental aspect of this martial art is using your opponents own momentum against them. My Theory is that Putin is most likely aware of the Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO agenda, and aware that in order to implement their agenda this will involve the purposeful weakening of the participating nations to implement the transition to a centralized global gov’t.
However instead of going along with the agenda, he’s using this opportunity to establish Russian sovereignty and insulate the country from the USD and move into an independent financial system, strengthen the BRICS nations, require ruble/gold for exports. He is able to do this now in knowing that the West is less capable to respond militarily and via sanctions.
What I’m getting at is that you are correct that Russia is being used as a scapegoat, or perhaps, “in on it,” but the angle that Russia is playing, that instead of being pulled in protracted war for the next decade, with the goal to weaken their country (think Soviet’s in Afghanistan). They’re playing along with the game, but for their own aspirations and intentions. This happens to accelerate the WEF agenda faster than they had planned. This in turn is having serious implications for the WEF.
I think Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO crowd long game is to use successive waves of pandemics to implement QR code digital ID & mandatory injections. Successive waves of inflation to introduce UBI/CBDC under to the guise of “we’re help to financially help you” as solutions to the coming bread lines (also connected to digital ID). Successive waves of “climate change” to utilize regulations to crush farms, control food supplies, and disrupt small business/individuals relying on fossil fuels. And finally successive waves of identity politics to implement hate speech/censorship laws & policies with the core goal to prevent criticism of the Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO gang. During successive waves they’re gradually rolling our their systems in place.
Being that we’re in a War here, Davos/WEF/BIS/NATO has their long game, say a “blitzkrieg invasion”, the Russian move may have just cut off their logistic supply of fuel and ammo whether it be purely intentional or completely accidental. Right now I see a major disruption to climate change and financial/economic agendas here, that is exposing the other agendas as well.
My example would be that Dutch gov’t decided to put farmers out of business at the start of a global food shortage. This results in protests in Netherlands now spreading to Germany and Italy by farmers. I think they are organic protests due to the demonization/lack of coverage by legacy media similar to the Trucker Protests in Canada earlier this year. The German gov’t decides to sanction a country that they buy fuel from! This has profound impacts on the German Economy. Revolutions can occur when populations are cold and hungry, we’re heading in that direction.
What I’m getting at, is that perhaps the long game was to put the pot of water on the stove, turn the heat on, but maybe a little hotter than planned. But most of the Frogs never notice, Frog wears his mask, gets his booster. Russia is your elbow inadvertently knocking over the squeeze bottle of olive oil next to the stove top. Which in turn starts a fire underneath that pot of water, now the frog population is feeling the heat and reacting faster than planned. And Ursela Von Der Leyen comes in and pours water on to oil fire to try and put it out (Russian sanctions). After all, she is quoted as saying something along these lines, “We need to keep buying oil from Russia, as if they sell on the open market they may make more money”
Certainly interesting times ahead, perhaps the Russian move could be helping the world and not hurting it. I certainly hope so. Time will tell!
Hello Catherine,
Thank you for the conversation. I just want to say is that I hope you are wrong and Putin is not acting at the behest of the WEF.
The way things are going, the US is headed for an absolute depression. If the depression gets too bad, the internet will collapse and people will no longer have phones or computers hooked up to the internet. At that point BIll Gates and his buddies at the WEF will no longer be able to control us.
This is not what I see. The middle class is being downsized and wiped out. But the people centralizing are in boomtime. There is a difference between a down turn and a take down.
Catherine,
thank you so much for this very insightful interview. This is the type of intelligence very much appreciated. Hopefully, you will go for part III:-)
Hi, Catherine,
The information you provide is invaluable. However, would you please provide transcripts for your videos? Thank you for all the information you provide – we are still coming from behind and absorbing as much as possible. Thank you.
Morris:
We do provide transcripts for all our subscriber videos. The expense and workload is too great for the ones we provide to the public for free. The alternative would be to make this one subscriber only. We try to make them public when there are public policy issues involved and subscribers benefit from being able to share widely. Appreciate your feedback.
Catherine