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1. Can you share any insight into the phenomenon of the cult of Scientology? Recently I started following the story of actress Leah Remini exposing the truth about how Scientology is a cult and brainwashes people. People who are unfamiliar with Scientology always ask, how is it anyone could be so stupid as to fall for such an obvious scam? Scientology requires people to pay thousands of dollars to ascend to higher levels of “awareness.” But Ms. Remini keeps saying that they have their ways. What are these ways? What special mind control techniques are they using? And I am wondering if the Deep State has secretly been supporting Scientology. If they have, why? What does Scientology do for the Deep State? And has this relationship changed due to the fact that Scientologists reject vaccines, and now that the Deep State has gone into overdrive to push vaccination on the general population, has the Deep State decided to withdraw its support of Scientology? I’m thinking of that recent news item about the Scientology cruise ship that had a measles outbreak. Was that an “op”?

   1. Audrey:

      I don’t know much about them. I met with them once in California – they had done some good work to try to stop the drugging of kids. They were supposed to send me a some books that they promised and never did. Struck me as a bit of a sign. They seemed nervous. Later they sent me a video and kept calling to try and get me to watch it. It was so strange and the folks calling were so high up in the organization that I threw out the video. Just being careful about subliminals. I had one of their members approach me who seemed very intelligent and thoughtful. He was interested in me going up the learning chain. My guess is that their education probably does provide a lot of knowledge about the real deal. He also described an “audit” process where you tell all about your life. Sounded to me like simply a way to get control files on people.

      If the Scientologists are fighting vaccines – that is a good thing. They were very effective at fighting the drugging of children, so I would love to have their help on protecting against vaccines. If they had a measles outbreak in the middle of fighting vaccines – it may be an op, but doubtful they did it.

      Who knows – these things get very complex.

      1. They do gather information for control files.

         There’s so much dirt on Church of Scientology out there, it would take years to research it. They have both given, and received heavy flak, since the 1950s, and been involved in some pretty odd stuff.

         Could post thousands of pages of info… but, I don’t think folks would find it all that interesting.

         A close friend of mine ran the largest Karate Dojo in NYC in the late 60’s early 70’s… Joe was a genuine “seeker”. He told a funny story about going to a meeting of theirs. He thought it was fishy, and told some members of the Dojo. It got back to CoS, and they called him and threatened him physically if he didn’t shut up. He gave them his dojo address, and told them to come on over. Never heard from them again.

         https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/13/KGB-ron/

         1. Your friend sounds like a good guy.

            1. You would adore my friend Joe… he is now in his 70s and still teaches Tai Chi, Qigong, and a little Karate, and does counseling on the side similar to Morita Therapy.

               Maybe the most balanced even tempered person I have ever met… and his laugh, makes everyone happy… it is deep, from the ocean of mirth. Such a dear man.

            2. Great practice – Tai Chi, Qigong, and a little Karate

         2. Oh… one more… I forgot about him… A friend of mine’s dad died, left him a tidy sum of money. Not millions, but low hundreds of thousands.

            He found CoS, and started doing auditing, on the path to getting “clear”. He ended up spending the majority of his inheritance on CoS training.

            He was broke about 18 months after his dad died.

            I think for some folks, they may get some real utility and maybe a better understanding of their problems, from initially working with CoS. For folks who have been really locked down, “catharsis” is a POWERFUL stimulant of endorphins… it’s like doing narcotics, neurochemically

            1. Heart breaking. Another variation of the fear porn, hope porn scams.

2. Can you share any insight into the phenomenon of the cult of Scientology? Recently I started following the story of actress Leah Remini exposing the truth about how Scientology is a cult and brainwashes people. People who are unfamiliar with Scientology always ask, how is it anyone could be so stupid as to fall for such an obvious scam? Scientology requires people to pay thousands of dollars to ascend to higher levels of “awareness.” But Ms. Remini keeps saying that they have their ways. What are these ways? What special mind control techniques are they using? And I am wondering if the Deep State has secretly been supporting Scientology. If they have, why? What does Scientology do for the Deep State? And has this relationship changed due to the fact that Scientologists reject vaccines, and now that the Deep State has gone into overdrive to push vaccination on the general population, has the Deep State decided to withdraw its support of Scientology? I’m thinking of that recent news item about the Scientology cruise ship that had a measles outbreak. Was that an “op”?

   1. Audrey:

      I don’t know much about them. I met with them once in California – they had done some good work to try to stop the drugging of kids. They were supposed to send me a some books that they promised and never did. Struck me as a bit of a sign. They seemed nervous. Later they sent me a video and kept calling to try and get me to watch it. It was so strange and the folks calling were so high up in the organization that I threw out the video. Just being careful about subliminals. I had one of their members approach me who seemed very intelligent and thoughtful. He was interested in me going up the learning chain. My guess is that their education probably does provide a lot of knowledge about the real deal. He also described an “audit” process where you tell all about your life. Sounded to me like simply a way to get control files on people.

      If the Scientologists are fighting vaccines – that is a good thing. They were very effective at fighting the drugging of children, so I would love to have their help on protecting against vaccines. If they had a measles outbreak in the middle of fighting vaccines – it may be an op, but doubtful they did it.

      Who knows – these things get very complex.

      1. They do gather information for control files.

         There’s so much dirt on Church of Scientology out there, it would take years to research it. They have both given, and received heavy flak, since the 1950s, and been involved in some pretty odd stuff.

         Could post thousands of pages of info… but, I don’t think folks would find it all that interesting.

         A close friend of mine ran the largest Karate Dojo in NYC in the late 60’s early 70’s… Joe was a genuine “seeker”. He told a funny story about going to a meeting of theirs. He thought it was fishy, and told some members of the Dojo. It got back to CoS, and they called him and threatened him physically if he didn’t shut up. He gave them his dojo address, and told them to come on over. Never heard from them again.

         https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/13/KGB-ron/

         1. Your friend sounds like a good guy.

            1. You would adore my friend Joe… he is now in his 70s and still teaches Tai Chi, Qigong, and a little Karate, and does counseling on the side similar to Morita Therapy.

               Maybe the most balanced even tempered person I have ever met… and his laugh, makes everyone happy… it is deep, from the ocean of mirth. Such a dear man.

            2. Great practice – Tai Chi, Qigong, and a little Karate

         2. Oh… one more… I forgot about him… A friend of mine’s dad died, left him a tidy sum of money. Not millions, but low hundreds of thousands.

            He found CoS, and started doing auditing, on the path to getting “clear”. He ended up spending the majority of his inheritance on CoS training.

            He was broke about 18 months after his dad died.

            I think for some folks, they may get some real utility and maybe a better understanding of their problems, from initially working with CoS. For folks who have been really locked down, “catharsis” is a POWERFUL stimulant of endorphins… it’s like doing narcotics, neurochemically

            1. Heart breaking. Another variation of the fear porn, hope porn scams.

3. A follow up comment on my Scientology question: according to Mike Rinder, a former Scientologist and whistleblower on the cult, Scientology obtained tax-exempt status as a “religion” despite the fact that there is a 1989 Supreme Court case saying that Scientology does not qualify as a “religion” because they require people to pay money for moving up the “enlightenment” ladder, so it is obviously not a “charity.” Mr. Rinder claims that Scientology attacked individual IRS officials and somehow got them to declare Scientology a religion. So Mr. Rinder, along with the actress Leah Remini, are fighting to get the IRS to revoke Scientology’s “tax-exempt religion” status. I find this a fascinating story. Catherine, can share any insight on this? Here is the link to the YT video interview of Mike Rinder (he is interviewed by Ron Miscavige, another ex-Scientologist and the father of David Miscavige, the leader of Scientology – Mr. Rinder starts talking about the tax exempt status issue at about 18 minutes into the video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6piansMy5Tc

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