From Ask Catherine: On Disinformation

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  1. Great quote from Walt Whitman, Catherine – that is how I’ve been “filtering” through information. I’m a person with a strong “gut” reaction to information. I’ve been using that to steer away from the fear porn & to be more in protection mode for my family. Also focusing on the “White Pill” hopeful problem solving action side.

  2. Catherine,
    1) My former church building was sold a few weeks ago to a new faith group. I spoke with the President of their church council numerous times about continuing to use the building so that I could continue to homeschool there. He was in complete agreement. We agreed that I would put my stuff in a pile, mark it clearly, and all would be well. I found out a week later that, unbeknownst to him, the clean-up crew came in and threw out all my stuff out.
    The lesson here is: not matter how clearly we can communicate something, our communications still have to be interpreted by someone else. You can’t be held responsible for how someone interprets (or not!) the information you give.

    2) Another though came to me last night about Plato’s Cave. We seem to think that all we need to do is leave the cave ONCE, and all is well after that. I think this is an error. I think that ASPECTS of us leave the cave, but we always leave parts of us behind. The great challenge of spiritual integration is realising that parts of us are still fixated on the shadows AND other parts of us have re-entered the cave (at our own peril) to illuminate our other shackles to ourselves. Maybe that’s too brainiac, but thinking of it that way helps me realise that life is an ongoing process, that is, necessarily, impossible to complete.

  3. Very helpful – thank you. At minute 19 you make mention of further resources look into regarding mind control. I’ve been searching here and there on Solari – and try as I may I am unable to locate the mind control and military info by Giradono & Morgan,
    Lori

  4. Thanks Catherine. Most comprehensive.

    If anyone has good information/insight which they don’t want to broadcast along with their name, is there a recommended channel of communication into you and your team ?

  5. Hi Catherine,
    Thank you as always for your insights and the obvious care you have for us, your community. I have admired your way of looking at and elucidating the world for a number of years, and so whenever there is a place of cognitive dissonance between my perception of the world and yours, it’s extremely intriguing. As I was listening to your discussion of disinformation, one of those occasions arose: the strong exception you take to Matthias Desmet’s Mass Formation hypothesis. My own way of understanding the world is grounded in cultural anthropology and (rather casually) systems theory, and how he explains things makes sense to me. I have much less grounding in mind control ops though it is an area I need to better understand. I do not think these are mutually exclusive ideas. I have heard that Desmet has offered to speak publicly with you about your differences on mass formation. I believe that a truly thoughtful discussion between opposing parties is one of the best ways to shed understanding on a controversial issue. I wish very much this kind of debate had been “allowed” by those who controlled the conventional Covid narrative. Would you be open to such a discussion between yourself, the Breggins, and Desmet? I believe it would shed a lot of light on things. Certainly for me, and maybe for others as well.
    With great appreciation for your work,
    Debra

    1. I recommended to Desmet that he write a detailed response to the Breggins book review. That is the right way to do so. He declined. These things need to be put in writing. It was only clear what he was saying when he published his book.

      I need to spend my time on things that are useful for subscribers. More time on this is not productive.

      If you think mass formation is useful, I strongly recommend the following:

      Deep State Tactics Parts 1-12
      https://home.solari.com/blast-from-the-past-deep-state-tactics-101-part-1-with-catherine-austin-fitts/

      Mind Control Tactics (state with lecture of Morgan and Giordano at the end of the links)
      https://home.solari.com/blast-from-the-past-week-of-august-15-2022-mind-control-tactics/

      Control and Freedom Happen One Person at a Time
      https://home.solari.com/control-freedom-happen-one-person-at-a-time-with-ulrike-granogger/

      You can read the more detailed analysis of Peter Breggin, CJ Hopkins and Jon Rappoport – all excellent.

      Humans do share intelligence – authors like Lynne McTaggert and Rupert Sheldrake are good sources to describe this.

      Hope that helps,

      Catherine

      1. If the Breggins wrote an actual review of his book, perhaps Desmet would have been willing to respond. I’d characterize it as a rant, filled with false assertions, ad hominem attacks, and a failure to address Desmet’s basic message. Perhaps they didn’t understand it. I couldn’t for the life of me find the Desmet they were purportedly talking about in their “review.” And then they go on to make global accusations about how Desmet is destroying the attempt to make the whole covid debacle right, which would be true if there were any truth in their diatribe. As it turns out, they’re the ones doing what they accuse Desmet of doing, because they’re simply muddying the waters by dragging Desmet into a quagmire.

        1. What false assertions? Can you be more specific? From everything I have heard they have addressed Desmet’s basic message on numerous occasions. I would say they are more concerned regarding its conversion into psychosis by Dr. Malone.
          Have you read his book carefully? I have. Ulrike wrote a review here. Perhaps that would help. https://home.solari.com/book-review-the-psychology-of-totalitarianism-by-mattias-desmet/
          CJ Hopkins at Consent Factory and Jon Rappoport at No More Fake News have both written new recent pieces on mass formation which I recommend to you.
          It would appear to me that Desmet has a history of misleading statements and material omissions. If a case with that pattern, increasingly hard to take what he says as firm. That is why I prefer to work with his written material – its in black and white.
          The important issue here is not mass formation, it is the weaponization of mental health. This is a much bigger issue problem, which goes way beyond this discussion. Billions being thrown into it. So for me important not to get bogged down in this one aspect but step back and see how we are going to protect ourselves and our loved ones from it and turn it around. The Breggins offer priceless input and support. I am quite grateful for their efforts.

          1. I don’t see any way that professor Desmet’s assertions could be used to weaponize mental health.
            False assertions:1) that there is no conspiracy – he leaves no question that there is an elite that planned this beforehand and continued to use propaganda to brainwash people into accepting the rollout.
            2)That it’s the victims blaming themselves –this is totally baseless. He’s simply explaining how the elites used brainwashing (and the necessary conditions in order for it to be possible) to effectively get the masses to accept the mandates without questioning them.
            3)Just wait it out, see how it goes – he never stops talking about the need to stand up, to continue, at whatever cost, to speak out and challenge the narrative of the elites.
            4)That the elites are not really responsible, that there’s no conspiracy – this is a tricky one. The elites are in charge, they are pulling it off, but it’s important to see that each of us shares a responsibility for the elites to be in power in the first place – we go to their stores, we use their banks, etc. – the crucial thing to see is that if we just destroy the elites, we will simply put in place another one as long as we believe there’s a scientific, rationalist answer for everything – there isn’t – Science has become the new God, that is the problem.
            The real problem: it’s not the line between good and evil. The problem is a worldview, an ideology that thinks we are capable of controlling life. He gives the historical background as to how this came into place. It makes sense to me. The new science, which has forfeited the foundational principles of science, questioning, uncertainty, admitting that we don’t know. Fauci is an example of the new science. We are not to question it/him. He’s one of the new gods.
            I didn’t look at Rappaport’s piece. But Hopkins essentially made a joke out of it, and his piece is a joke. He didn’t even try. He made it all about Hypnosis, and it has nothing to do with Hypnosis.

          2. CJ’s two pieces on Mattis Desmet are quite insightful and not a joke at all. He is quite serious. What he points out is important. The statements of a person with a history of lying about important issues should not be taken seriously.

            Suggest you read Desmet’s book. He attributes the primary driver of the latest round of tyranny to the general population for what has happened, rather than the people who engineered this.

            This is a genocide. IMO, this took a lot of work. A lot of planning and was totally engineered. To say that the people being killed have psychological problem – let alone that is causing this I would describe as “a tad misleading.”

            When the Bolsheviks and Stalin genocided 80MM Russian, no one attributed it to hysteria. I attribute it to Wall Street. Although I would note, the next time someone comes to kill you, your family and your neighbors, you might take offense too. But I would not describe that as mass hysteria or a formation. I would describe that as people not wanting to die who get angry at the people killing them. Quite healthy survival instinct, don’t you think?

            🙂

      3. Thanks much Catherine. I’ll followup on these resources. I had missed the fact that he had declined an offer to respond in writing. Good to know.
        Debra

  6. This comment is a little off topic but wanted to pass on some information I’ve found the hard way. The Health Information Exchanges (HIE) worry me a lot, as someone who’s worked in the admin end of the industry for a long time. Recently, I went to an urgent care center with an ear problem (started that day after a family member got vaccinated). One of the forms they asked me to sign was a consent to have my information go out on the HIE. I refused to sign it. The HIE is buried in all the consent HIPAA language. They refused to see me. I asked for my copay back. They saw me then. Though I had not consented to the HIE, when I visited a doctor 5 days later for the same ear issue, the nasty front desk person, staring at her computer screen said, “so you went to an urgent care 5 days ago”. No way they could’ve known that unless my information went out on the HIE, despite me refusing consent for it. A dentist office recently basically refused to see me when I refused to sign a form attesting to having seen a data privacy policy that I had not seen, and which the front desk person produced at my request, with a display of disbelief and then anger that I wouldn’t consent to a privacy policy I’d never seen. They handled their fury by making me sit in the waiting room a half hour before I finally just walked out. It seems to me that there must be $$ incentives for them to bully us into giving up our health data, and with the HIE, it seems we are giving our data to big tech and big government, no matter how they try to dress it up as “for your own good”. It’s not for my own good. I found a way to “opt out” here https://healthshareexchange.org/patient-options-opt-out-back/, for myself and anyone else interested. I also had to opt out in writing at the state level because my state has its own health information exchange, which is truly creepy. Opt outs can be found by an internet search “opt out, health information exchange”. This has all become very, very creepy, in my opinion.

    1. I had the same thing happen to me. I refudpsed to sign something with a QR code and a “gene therapy” related to cancer or something similar. It was at my gynecologist (of a all places). When I refused to fill out the info or scan the QR code, the mood changed (they were quite aggressive) and they treated me like a petulant child telling me I wasted their time by not filling it out in the waiting room and it is required and Yada Yada…. I told the lady to write whatever she need to on the form but I wasn’t completing it. She then told me I was listed as noncompliant for not seeing about my lower back issues. I pondered and said “you mean the chiropractor?” She said it wasn’t her business but that is what my file said. I told her I go to the chiropractor when I need to go. It was bizarre. I was then given a bright pink paper to take with my bill. The clerk who checked me out was instantly rude. They tried to force me to go to schedule a mammogram and I said no. So I am labeled “noncompliant” now. Badge of honor I guess.

      1. Sounds to me like a place to avoid in the future. You need to find a gynecologist you can trust.

        1. The data sharing thing started out well intentioned enough. For instance, a person discharged from a hospital on a Friday, develops problems on a Saturday morning, such as they couldn’t pick up their medications from the pharmacy because the insurance doesn’t cover it. Patient calls primary doctor who can’t help because he/she doesn’t know what happened in the hospital, and patient has to return to hospital emergency room for a new prescription and out of control blood sugar or heart rhythm. If the primary doctor has quick access to the hospital records, said doctor might be able to assist and avert a return to the hospital. What started out a well intentioned “good idea” has morphed and ballooned into something else entirely though. Tech and government collecting and controlling the data and data flow worries me and I don’t like it. One doctor might use an exaggerated diagnosis to “upcode” your visit and get a higher payment from the insurance company, but now the patient carries an inaccurate diagnosis through data sharing- this happened to me with an asthma diagnosis that follows me everywhere but I don’t have asthma. The mental health diagnoses especially are problematic in netting higher payments for providers in billing but may haunt a patient who may be unaware that a doctor used the diagnosis once, years prior. Heath care staff are not so impartial/non-judgmental as they’d have us believe.

      2. Tara,

        The doctor’s offices are bullied into bullying you. I believe the “quality standard” is a mammogram every two years (though the time frame on the standard may have changed since I last saw it). If a certain percentage of the doctor’s patients get their mammogram on time, the doctor gets a financial bonus (on the taxpayer dime) and if not, the doctor gets labeled “poor quality” of care provider. Under the HITECH Act, there seems to be some sort of financial incentive for doctors to get you to buy into/sign on tech and government collecting your data. They are likely mad because your “non-compliance” might mean loss of bonus money for them. Seems to me that the “non-compliant” label gets passed from doctor to doctor through the data sharing you probably unknowingly agreed to. Thats’s my sense, is that my covid-19 vaccine refusal and refusal on mammograms ect is following me around. I never show up wearing a mask. I just get left in waiting rooms until I walk out and I get a lot of subtle attitude. I recognize the attitude because I work in the system. I know what terminal waiting room means. Anyway doctors get incentive dollars when you get a PAP smear, mammogram, take a statin drug, get your children vaccinated, take certain blood pressure drugs… thats why you get pushed to do these things. Money.

        1. Thank you for taking the time to respond. You are exactly right. Money is the root of all evil. I almost asked her if it was required because they get paid but chose to take the high road. I left and was really upset with witnessing these previously nice people turn. I understand the pressures they have whether they are willfully participating or are trapped because of loans, financial pressures, etc. I pray for them to get back to the human underneath which I know is there for some of them. Thank you for your perspective.

          After my gyno confronted me about my chiropractor visits, I did go into my insurance carrier account log in and found my “health history” designed to “make sure I address conditions and stay healthy” BS. It went back to 2008. I was astonished. I deleted it. Thank you for the link you also provided.

          1. Have to disagree with you there. The expression is that the love of money is the root of all evil. Money is a tool. It has no emotion. It is the human desire and use that adds the punch. In my experience financial greed is down the scale on the root of evil. It is the love of power and demonic pleasures that drive killing and harming that represents much of the evil in this world. Money is merely a tool used to help attract others into helping.

            Yes, beware health records.

    2. This is great insight. I just sent you an email for permission to use on Money & Markets and Financial Rebellion on an anonymous basis.

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