In this episode John Titus and Catherine Austin Fitts discuss the impact of tariffs and bond market fluctuations on the U.S. economy, including rising interest rates and mortgage rates. They critique Elon Musk’s “Doge operation”, suspecting its true motives involve creating a control grid with sensitive government data.

The discussion broadens to international politics, focusing on Israel’s influence on U.S. policies and potential conflicts in Iran and Ukraine. They also examine the integration of AI systems with NATO and the implications for controlling populations. The duo concludes by stressing personal and regional strategies for navigating these turbulent times.