56 and one thing that he said was, “I love math. I love money. Then it’s everybody. This is $65,000 for everybody – black, white, male, female, old, young.” $65,000 is almost $250,000 for a family of four. Farrell: It’s obscene, and that has been stolen from the people. We know who these villains are. They are the banks, the big corporations, the hedge funds and so on. Just look at the rape of Argentina, for that matter, on hedge funds. We know who they are, and it’s time to let them know that we know who they are. Then the real crunch comes, “We know where you live.” It’s what we said when we were talking previous to the recording; it’s coming down to a choice between: Do you want to live under a system of slavery and death, which is what they have planned for everybody? Do you want infertility? Fitts: Do you want your children and grandchildren to be infertile? Farrell: Or, do you want to live under a system where you are still free? That may require your death at some point, but there are worse things than death. Fitts: For many of us, I think it’s going to come down to a swine flu moment. I’ve been through this in the litigation. I had to decide which was more important: My freedom or my life? I chose my freedom. If there is anything that I can communicate, I will say it again, death is not the worst thing that can happen. Farrell: No, it isn’t. If you don’t have freedom, you don’t have life. You’re only living through the motions, you’re living a facsimile of it and that’s fundamental. We need to learn from history that every tyrannical system in history thinks that it is the latest and best and, “We’ll make it work this time because we have the best technology.” Fitts: “It’s different this time.” Farrell: “We have the technology, we have all of the ideology down correctly,” and it never ever works. Fitts: There is no life; it’s inhuman. This has been a rich discussion. Remember we are planning on the crowdfund organ coming. We will have much to give thanks for at Thanksgiving, but we definitely ask your prayers for our very, very busy over- worked organ builder, Chris Martin. Your book is available, so tell us again the name of your book and how we can get it. Farrell: It’s called Hess and the Penguins: The Holocaust, Antarctica, and the Strange Case of Rudolf Hess. I don’t have it on my website yet, but you can get it through the publisher at Adventures Unlimited or Barnes & Noble and those places. It is out and is definitely a book worth reading. Fitts: I’ve started it, and it’s a ‘whop- per-doozy’. Farrell: It’s a ‘whopper-doozy’. The further you get into it, the bigger and bigger and bigger, and you will think, “My word! It’s a ‘whopper- doozy’.” Fitts: If you want to try to understand what is happening in Antarctica, you have to know the history. Farrell: If you want to know what is happening in Antarctica, you have to understand that the modern history of it begins with the Nazi expedition in 1938 and 1939 that was sponsored by Hermann Goering, of all people. This person is not sponsoring a science fair because that’s not his bailiwick. The Hess case is a part of that in my argu- ment – a very big part of it. Fitts: The other thing that I noticed in the acknowledgements is that you put my name with them, and I was very touched. Needless to say, my collaboration with you is a source of great amazement, informa- tion, learning, astonishment, and laughter. Farrell: I put you in there because we both were wondering what the heck was happen- ing down there. Fitts: What is happening in Antarctica? Farrell: I don’t know, but I think that Hess was a part of it, whatever it was, and Go- ering. What a weird group of people if you stop and think about it: Hermann Goering, Rudolf Hess, Admiral Richard Byrd, and then you find out James Forrestal and fleet admiral Nimitz were involved in planning that whole thing. In more recent times you had Apollo astronaut Buzz Aldrin and even had the Secretary of State, John Kerry. Fitts: The Secretary of State was there during the election. Farrell: During the election, of all things! And the patriarch of Moscow was there. Fitts: He was there with the Pope, right? Farrell: He wasn’t there with the Pope, but he went there immediately after he met the Pope. Dig a little further, and you find that King Juan Carlos and Prince Harry and the list goes on of who went there. Fitts: When the owners land, everybody comes from around the country to bring tribute. Farrell: Exactly why is Antarctica an inter- national zone? Fitts: As you said, it’s not on the way to someplace. Farrell: It’s not on the way to anywhere. All of those 19th century claims on Ant- arctica since World War II have fallen by the wayside. Don’t think that is part of the story. Fitts: Tell us the name again. Farrell: Hess and the Penguins: The Holo- caust, Antarctica, and the Strange Case of Rudolf Hess. The book is about Hess, not Antarctica, but there is a part of Antarctica that it touches on. Fitts: You definitely need to know the Nazi angles if you’re going to understand Antarctica. Joseph, this was a great discussion. I look forward to next week to discuss Part II. We’re going to be talking about Culture, Science & Technology, and the Unan- swered Questions that still plague us. What are the penguins doing in Antarctica? I look forward to our discussion next week. Thank you again so much. Farrell: Thank you for having me. VI. News Trends & Stories with Dr. Joseph Farrell